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Obama bundler says he lost $25 billion of N.J. pension funds (hedge funder Orin Kramer)
PolitickerNJ ^ | 11/20

Posted on 11/23/2008 4:07:15 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Obama bundler says he lost $25 billion of N.J. pension funds

By Editor


Hedge Fund millionaire Orin Kramer and Obama national finance director Julianna Smoot. A state pension fund headed by Kramer says they have lost $25 billion since July

A New Jersey pension fund run by one of Barack Obama’s earliest and biggest campaign fundraisers/bundlers has lost $25 billion -- including $9 billion in October, according to a report issued today by a state panel. The New Jersey Investment Council, chaired by hedge fund manager Orin Kramer, says that the value of the state pension fund has shrunk from $82 billion in July to $57 billion.

Kramer, 63, a former White House aide in the Carter administration and a partner at Boston Provident, was named to head the state retirement benefits panel by then-Gov. James E. McGreevey in 2003. The state Division of Investment is one of the ten largest public fund managers in the U.S., with a market value at of $70.7 billion as of the end of September, according to the Treasury Department website. The fund provides retirement benefits for more than 700,000 current and future retirees.

U.S. News and World Report ranked Kramer as Obama's #3 bundler last August, just behind Lehman Brothers' Christine Forester.

State Sen. Bill Baroni (R-Hamilton), who represents the district with the largest number of state employees, called it a "historic breakdown" in the state pension system.

Less than three weeks ago, Kramer pushed the investment council to add $94 million in pension funds to their $450 million stake in the BlackRock Inc. Kramer said the hedge fund needed to protect cash reserves to avud selling part o their holdings.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008; bundling; economy; fundingtheleft; fundraising; hedgefunds; newjersey; obama; obamatransitionfile; orincramer; orinkramer; pensionfund
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Man, we have another one on the bailout list.
1 posted on 11/23/2008 4:07:15 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; NVDave; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/23/2008 4:07:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Government pension funds....part of the problem.


3 posted on 11/23/2008 4:08:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I'm bettin’ some guys named Rocco and Vito “found” it.
4 posted on 11/23/2008 4:15:30 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The politicians are looting everything they can get their hands on.


5 posted on 11/23/2008 4:22:07 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( When CHANGE comes let me know, I'll put my tin foil hat on and sit in front of myTV)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That doesn’t strike me as a greater percentage that the loss of value for the DOW.


6 posted on 11/23/2008 4:25:31 AM PST by js1138
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I can’t imagine how that happened. They got the President he wanted, yet his pension fund dropped more than stocks have ever dropped in history.


7 posted on 11/23/2008 4:26:46 AM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The pensions of state government workers have dropped like a stone along with the rest of the market and have little prospects for significant growth in this era.

Haven’t heard too much about this yet, but I imagine we will.


8 posted on 11/23/2008 4:31:37 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

An member of President-elect Barack Obama’s conversion team, speaking on condition of anonymity, reports Kramer is being considered for Secretary of the Treasury.


9 posted on 11/23/2008 4:31:41 AM PST by Bertram3
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To: Bertram3
Obama assembling a financial demolition team? LOL.
10 posted on 11/23/2008 4:34:30 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

OhBummer is the Erkle of the world’s economy.


11 posted on 11/23/2008 4:43:23 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
has lost $25 billion -- including $9 billion in October

too impatient to wait out a market low

Grow the Economy, Stupid

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12 posted on 11/23/2008 4:53:38 AM PST by Son House (Mr. Øbama, Your Tax Increases Are Decreasing Job Opportunities)
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To: Bertram3

“An (sic) member of President-elect Barack Obama’s conversion team, speaking on condition of anonymity, reports Kramer is being considered for Secretary of the Treasury.”

Nope...Obama’s pick for Sec. of Treasury has already been named (Tim Geitner).


13 posted on 11/23/2008 4:56:31 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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To: TigerLikesRooster
hedge fund manager

And he hedged his bets how? They've destroyed the meaning of that term. He should be called what he is: a leveraged fund crapshooter.

14 posted on 11/23/2008 5:12:10 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: randita
The pensions of state government workers have dropped like a stone along with the rest of the market and have little prospects for significant growth in this era.

The NJ numbers while big aren't really out of line for crash like we have had. The S&P 500 is down 50% while the NJ pension fund is down 30%.

The biggest problem these state pension funds have is the state coming in and borrowing on what is left and paying it back with crappy bond issues..

15 posted on 11/23/2008 5:13:34 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Sacajaweau

Taxes, on you, will have to go up to make up this loss.

Maybe tax your 401K.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 5:27:16 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: Leisler
Obama CAREFULLY specified again and again...not raising INCOME taxes for the middle class. Fees, FICA, energy taxes.....

Right now....driving up the deficit is the most urgent PLAN for the Democrats...

After reading up on 401k's years ago, I decided that monies left to my kids should be free from the changing policies of the government and took it all out.

17 posted on 11/23/2008 5:38:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: Leisler
Taxes, on you, will have to go up to make up this loss.

Maybe tax your 401K.

Or just take your 401k and put it in the SS "lock box" at three percent until you retire. At which time you will discover that the government spent that money the day after they took it and the SS "lock box" is still empty.

18 posted on 11/23/2008 5:45:01 AM PST by CPOSharky (Coming up: Four years of Jimmuh Cartah on crack.)
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To: Black Birch
The S&P 500 is down 50% while the NJ pension fund is down 30%.

Let's give this guy a testimonial dinner for beating the indexes.

19 posted on 11/23/2008 6:12:03 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Sacajaweau

Who cares?

The Taxpayer will just make up the difference.


20 posted on 11/23/2008 6:16:07 AM PST by Boiling Pots (I'd be laughing if it wasn't going to be so expensive.)
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