Posted on 11/20/2008 8:49:04 PM PST by Red Steel
Buena Park Pastor says Obama was born in Kenya and can not be sworn in as President
President-Elect Barack Obama says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. Obama provided a birth certificate to prove it, but a Buena Park pastor says Obama is not telling the truth.
The Orange County Register reports that Rev. Wiley Drake, who ran for vice president on the American Independent ticket, filed a lawsuit claiming "Obama has not provided sufficient proof he is a U.S. citizen, and asks that Secretary of State Debra Bowen not certify California's election results until he provides more concrete evidence.
OK
Yes he does, and Biden is not a candidate for President.
McCain would win by default, and Biden would be the VP. Read the 12th Amendment to the Constitution.
AFAIK, all he did was post a proven fake birth certificate on the internet.
If Obama were to be elected by the Electoral College, but disqualified before Innaguration Day, you would most likely have a President McCain & a Vice President Biden.
OK
It’s fascinating, in a morbid way
Amendment XX would only take effect if the issue were not resolved before the Electoral College meets, until then, Amendment XII would be determinate.
He would be an "honorary" one-term president with an asterisk, not a constitutional president. I think I could live with that...for four years.
Can’t happen; too much at stake!
The VP has to be qualified to be President.
Remember the loophole the Clintonoids were talking about, though. The Constitution doesn’t say that no one may BE President who has served two terms, but that no one may be ELECTED President who has already served two terms. (Leaving aside the fractional thing.) Thus, argued the Clintonoids, Bill could run and be elected VP with Hillary! as POTUS, then Hillary! could resign and make Bill POTUS again.
The Constitution is being raped a lot worse than that every day.
The notorious “birth certificate” was withdrawn as a forgery.
where are the PLANE records?
this would settle it for sure!
If Ms Dunham was on a plane on Dec 3 61 its all over
Right?
Now also he could have been a HOME BIRTH
this hasnt been brought up either......
It will have legs if the SCOTUS orders the state of Hawaii to send Obama's long form birth certificate to DC.
Getting into the main stream media. The story won’t go away.
Yes, the Clintons. Well, I wonder if the Dems didn’t think BO would win, just like they didn’t think Clinton would win. Hillary said something after 92 about it just being a practice run. But they actually won. So they had no clue what to do when they did, of course. Could it be BO wasn’t properly investigated because he wasn’t expected to actually get this far?
Now also he could have been a HOME BIRTH
this hasnt been brought up either
Obama’s half sister first says he was born in one hospital, then she says he was born in another. The circumstances of his birth are being hidden. He also has not made public his medical or school records.
“Yes, the Clintons. Well, I wonder if the Dems didn’t think BO would win, just like they didn’t think Clinton would win. Hillary said something after 92 about it just being a practice run. But they actually won. So they had no clue what to do when they did, of course. Could it be BO wasn’t properly investigated because he wasn’t expected to actually get this far?”
Bu one also has to explain his not being properly vetted the times he ran in Illinois? Talk about things falling through the cracks! He has people protecting him in high places.
Not making excuses for them, but just trying to figure out how it wasn’t caught. Either intentionally or accidentally.
If Obama is disqualified then his EC votes are either disqualified along with him (constitutional path), or they go to Biden (voter intent BS path). If Biden doesn't get them (or enough of them) then McCain should win the EC vote. If for some reason nobody gets a majority of the EC votes cast then the election goes to the House. The House then votes at one vote per state. The states are constrained to choosing one of the top three candidates (Obama (who is disqualified), McCain, Nader, or, arguably, one of the top three qualified candidates, McCain, Nader and Barr) by a simple majority of all the States (26) with a quorum of 2/3 of the States (34). [12th Amendment] The same process applies to the VP, so Biden will end up VP in the EC even if he ends up President later on. Note that the 12th Amendment specifically separates the EC and House voting process for President from that for VP, so Biden cannot be selected President by this process.
If, after the EC convenes, it is determined that Obama was not qualified, then he won't be able to take office and the VP (Biden) becomes Acting President until the President can resume his duties (never) or is removed from office (again, never, since he cannot take office in the first place. It has been suggested that a President-elect can be impeached but I have no evidence to support that). [25th Amendment] So, in this scenario, Biden is Acting President for four years.
If, after the Inauguration it is determined that Obama was not qualified, he would be impeached, and Biden becomes President. If Biden is implicated in the deception about Obama's Constitutional qualifications, then he, too, would be impeached and then Pelosi ends up President. After her then President pro tempore of the Senate, then the Secretary of State, etc.
How about this for a wacky scenario: After the EC convenes but before the Inauguration, Obama is disqualified and Impeached and Biden, Pelosi (Speaker) and Byrd (current President pro tempore of the Senate) are all implicated in the coverup and removed from office. Who ends up President? Condoleezza Rice. Since the new President and cabinet never took office, the existing Secretary of State is next in the line of succession. Far fetched, but possible.
“VP (Biden) becomes Acting President”
and the 20th Amendment, of course.
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