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CA Lawsuit Claims Obama Not Born in US (NBC 4 Los Angeles )
nbc4 ^ | Thu, Nov 20, 2008

Posted on 11/20/2008 8:49:04 PM PST by Red Steel

Buena Park Pastor says Obama was born in Kenya and can not be sworn in as President

President-Elect Barack Obama says he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. Obama provided a birth certificate to prove it, but a Buena Park pastor says Obama is not telling the truth.

The Orange County Register reports that Rev. Wiley Drake, who ran for vice president on the American Independent ticket, filed a lawsuit claiming "Obama has not provided sufficient proof he is a U.S. citizen, and asks that Secretary of State Debra Bowen not certify California's election results until he provides more concrete evidence.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; keyes; lawsuit; obama; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile
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To: Red Steel

NBC in Los Angeles reported this? I hope that the reporter doesn’t need a bodyguard to come into the newsroom to pickup his final paycheck? When the Democrats hear that one of their affiliate stations reported this, they’ll be on the war path!

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


101 posted on 11/21/2008 9:16:04 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: Red Steel

It would be pretty hard for a judge to plausibly argue that a vice-presidential candidate does not have “standing” to challenge the credentials of another candidate.


102 posted on 11/21/2008 9:17:22 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: Tallguy
If the Electors have already voted & Obama is then disqualified there has to be a new election. GWB continues in office until the re-do is over.


Oh, man can you imagine all the exploding heads?
103 posted on 11/21/2008 9:34:31 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: montesquieu

Excellent points. It sure does seem like he thinks he has gotten away with it. He is the most arrogant-acting president (elect) I have seen in my lifetime bar none. I am going to pray this brings him down. It would be such a fitting slap to the face to the media, and his supporters who would have no one but the media to blame. My parents voted for 0bama and had no idea he knew Ayers because they were fed pro-0bama crap by CNN.


104 posted on 11/21/2008 9:35:46 AM PST by toddausauras
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To: jamese777; Jim Robinson
Its still available for viewing at Obama’s “fight the smears” web site and it has been “authenticated” as “genuine” at both the factcheck.org and politfact web sites.

Whew...it's good to know that two websites have declared it authentic and genuine. Get's rid of that pesky Constitutional and congressional oversight thingy.

Hey Jim, how about having your website declare it as "non-authentic" and "not genuine"? I mean if that's all it takes to determine validity for the office of the Presidency.

105 posted on 11/21/2008 9:42:34 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: cookcounty
Amendment XX would only take effect if the issue were not resolved before the Electoral College meets, until then, Amendment XII would be determinate.

Thanks for pointing out my error - I feel really dumb about now. :>)

106 posted on 11/21/2008 9:59:20 AM PST by KittenClaws
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To: napscoordinator

I presume that if Obama were to be elected that Electors pledged to vote for him would be freed to vote for another name on the Presidential ballot. McCain would probably be that choice, but it could theoretically be any of the others on the ballot in their state.


107 posted on 11/21/2008 10:40:41 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Red Steel
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a lot of trouble they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

Be sure to download the recording as well. The chances of it remaining online for long are remote.
108 posted on 11/21/2008 11:56:37 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer

Thanks, saved to harddrive.


109 posted on 11/21/2008 12:01:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

In a way it is GOOD that he won

Now there is NO way the media and the DNC will be able to cover for him

the MSM cannot ignore these things now that he is PRES ELECT

(although the certainly will try......)

right?

it will be “Oh so what he is not eligible- he was voted for anyway...”


110 posted on 11/21/2008 12:46:12 PM PST by kauaiboy (Obama is a a far left marxist Islamosfascist Chicago thug manchurian plant)
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To: MrPiper

“you have more confidence in the SCOTUS than I.”

Hey, they passed Heller. Right now I think we have five justices with a respect for the Constitution. At least I hope we do.


111 posted on 11/21/2008 1:54:48 PM PST by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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To: panthermom

“There is a bill right now that was presented that addresses this issue. I can’t remember which Congressman wrote it, but you would need to prove natural born citizenship before running for President.”

Very sensible, but about 200 years too late! I guess our founding fathers didn’t anticipate the kind of chicanery we are enduring right now.


112 posted on 11/21/2008 1:55:50 PM PST by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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To: Red Steel

One of my grandchildren turned 6 today...

She was born in the US...OH actually...

I know, I was there...

Let’s forget about that pesky 35 thingy...

So, YIPPPPPEEEEEEE...

She’s eligible to be POTUS...

Fancy that...

Me...

First Nana....

:)


113 posted on 11/21/2008 6:35:55 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: calenel

What if they somehow confirm Hillary as SoS in early January in the middle of all that?!


114 posted on 11/22/2008 2:22:09 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: calenel

Maybe Acting President Biden would spend his entire term demanding the Obamabot zombie army push thru a Constitutional amendment or con-con to push Obama into office. Could get ugly.


115 posted on 11/22/2008 2:27:28 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz
"What if they somehow confirm Hillary as SoS in early January in the middle of all that?!"

Fortunately they can't. Obama can't make appointments until he is actually in office and not merely the President-presumptive (not even President-elect until the EC votes are counted). For Hillary to be inserted into the succession before Obama takes Office she would have to replace an existing Bush cabinet member. But I don't put it past the Socialist Mafia to try something. There are already idiots trying to evict Bush. All Obama's appointments are probably going to be confirmed the first instant the Senate can legally vote on it so as to hit the ground running (trampling).

116 posted on 11/22/2008 2:58:26 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: napscoordinator

A president dying in office is not a coup.


117 posted on 11/22/2008 3:10:00 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: napscoordinator
"McCain would not be President as he did not receive 270 electoral votes?"

He needs to receive a majority of the Electoral Votes cast, so I think that if 0's votes are disqualified, McCain might get a majority. If 0's votes are counted even though he is not eligible, then the election passes to the House because "nobody" received a majority. If there are enough faithless electors that vote for someone else - McCain, Biden, Clinton, Mickey Mouse - we could get anybody, but I doubt they would dare since that would put the blame for 0 being ousted directly on the Rat party to the perception of the voters.

118 posted on 11/22/2008 3:22:59 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: Tallguy
"I presume that if Obama were to be elected that Electors pledged to vote for him would be freed to vote for another name on the Presidential ballot. McCain would probably be that choice, but it could theoretically be any of the others on the ballot in their state."

The Electors are not Constitutionally constrained to vote for any particular candidate. They can vote for anyone they want. Some states have Faithless Elector laws, but no one has ever been punished to my knowledge. There have been numerous occurrences of an Elector voting for someone other than the candidate to which they were pledged but it has never affected the outcome of an election. If 0 is disqualified prior to the EC vote then I would expect them to attempt to follow the perceived intent of the voters and switch to Biden as 0's legitimate successor, but they can vote for anyone at all. There won't be a redo as there is no Constitutional mechanism for it and there is a Constitutional remedy for an unqualified candidate. There is some flex in the Constitution that might allow a new election once all the explicit remedies have been tried, but that is the last resort and would require the SCOTUS to "reach" a bit, IMO.

119 posted on 11/22/2008 3:41:45 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: calenel

It’s got a lot of grey in it to be sure. I think that I passed along some bad information earlier in the thread where I said that GWB could continue in office under certain circumstances if Obama were to be DQ’ed. I’m now not sure that’s so. It may well be that the presidential succession laws kick-in when his term expires. I’m sure if any of this were to happen then it would be challenged legally.


120 posted on 11/22/2008 4:11:51 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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