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Majority say teach evolution in Texas
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Posted on 11/20/2008 6:38:37 AM PST by mnehring

A new survey finds a majority of science professors at Texas' public and private universities are against a state policy requiring weaknesses in the theory of evolution be covered in public school science classes.

The study by the progressive group Texas Freedom Network surveyed 464 university biologists and anthropologists with the help of a sociology professor at the University of Texas at Arlington.

The Dallas Morning News reports 95% said schools should teach "just evolution" in covering the origins of life on earth. The rest said children should learn both evolution and the creationist theory called "intelligent design."

Survey results were released ahead of tomorrow's state Board of Education public hearing on new science curriculum standards.

A main topic of discussion is expected to be how teachers should treat Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.

New science curriculum standards for Texas public school students will be voted on early next year in what is expected to be a close vote by the state Board of Education.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: commonsenseprevails; education; evolution; texas
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1 posted on 11/20/2008 6:38:40 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

A progressive group “polling” liberal profs. Wow. I totally trust the poll.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 6:40:38 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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To: mnehrling
[ The study by the progressive group Texas Freedom Network surveyed 464 university biologists and anthropologists with the help of a sociology professor at the University of Texas at Arlington. ]

Whats the odds this "study" is weighted heavily toward an agenda?..
You know..... some agenda...

3 posted on 11/20/2008 6:44:58 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: mnehrling
At least we're ahead of Turkey
4 posted on 11/20/2008 6:45:56 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns.)
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To: mnehrling

I have a hard enough time beliving micro evolution, but supposedly it happens...

Macro evolution is a farce, I’ll never accept it.

ID is not science. Plain and simple, not science.

I think you should sit your kids down and tell them what YOU belive, and why.

Nuff said.


5 posted on 11/20/2008 6:45:57 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: mnehrling
I don't see how this is news. What is news would be a survey of people that reveals about 80% of the people paying for what the kids learn want ID taught with evolution. More and more people are seeing the faults in Darwinism. Darwinism has too many holes to explain origins.

Teachers, OTOH, can't have a job, be tenured, publish papers, get grants, etc, unless they have drunk the whole Darwin jug of kool aid.

6 posted on 11/20/2008 6:47:43 AM PST by chuckles
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Wow....biologists and anthropoligists that are pro-evolution.

whodathunikit???


7 posted on 11/20/2008 6:48:56 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: mnehrling
Majority say teach evolution in Texas

"Majority"?? Majority of what, evolutionists? Ha!

That headline is a rather clever lie, I'll give 'em that.
8 posted on 11/20/2008 6:49:28 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: mnehrling
A new survey finds a majority of science professors at Texas' public and private universities are against a state policy requiring weaknesses in the theory of evolution be covered in public school science classes....

Wow!! You mean, kind of like science professors in Germany in 1940 were against teaching the logical flaws of naziism??


9 posted on 11/20/2008 6:50:34 AM PST by varmintman
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The study by the progressive group Texas Freedom Network surveyed 464 university biologists...

"Progressive" and "Freedom" are not compatible these days. Progressive means restricting freedom. Just look at today's political progressives; they're the most anti-Constitutional people in power today.

10 posted on 11/20/2008 6:50:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SolidWood

All that aside - theory is science and should be taught as such. Creationsim is belief - faith should be held in the heart, the home and the church.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 6:51:28 AM PST by FormerRep
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To: chuckles

teachers, heck -

students who haven’t been taught using “approved” science textbooks

are not being allowed entrance to California colleges.

Rejecting God and Creationism has become the “mark of the beast” for getting an education.


12 posted on 11/20/2008 6:52:19 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: chuckles

Last night I watched the DVD “Expelled” starring Ben Stein about the vicious treatment of scientists that dare teach about the possibility of intelligent design. I HIGHLY encourage everyone to watch the movie.

It was quite hilarious for Ben Stein to match wits with a scientist that said that science couldn’t prove the origin of life. The scientist then went on to say that he “believes” crystals, or another highly intelligent being (aliens) started life.


13 posted on 11/20/2008 6:53:25 AM PST by VA_Gentleman ("There are sheep, and there are wolves. In the end, the wolves always win." - Col. Ripley, RIP)
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To: ChetNavVet
I think you should sit your kids down and tell them what YOU belive, and why.

Yep, spend an hour or two doing that, and have their "teachers" spend 14,000 seat hours teaching them that their faith is false.

14 posted on 11/20/2008 6:54:13 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ChetNavVet
I have a hard enough time beliving micro evolution, but supposedly it happens...

You can easily see it all around you. You differ from your parents, do you not? That is "microevolution."

Macro evolution is a farce, I’ll never accept it.

Your acceptance is not required. Science will get along just fine in spite of your sullen disbelief.

But there is fine evidence for "macroevolution" out there. There are several known examples of what are called ring species.

Ring species provide unusual and valuable situations in which we can observe two species and the intermediate forms connecting them. In a ring species:

A ring species, therefore, is a ring of populations in which there is only one place where two distinct species meet. Ernst Mayr called ring species "the perfect demonstration of speciation" because they show a range of intermediate forms between two species. They allow us to use variation in space to infer how changes occurred over time. This approach is especially powerful when we can reconstruct the biogeographical history of a ring species, as has been done in two cases. Source

ID is not science. Plain and simple, not science.

On this we can agree.

15 posted on 11/20/2008 6:56:46 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: mnehrling

I’m always disappointed in these results.

We’re lectured about “science” regarding the origins of mankind which are sketchy under the best scientific hypothesis yet with embriology and neonatology and the 3D and now ever 4D of a fetus (which is just a technical term - it’s a developing baby with brainwaves by 21 days) moving and smiling and even burping with the real time results in plain sight and the same group will tell us “that don’t prove nuttin.”

So, remember that science is bastardized just like our public radio and public schools. Science shouldn’t use hypothesis for public policy, science needs to be able to prove it.

And the images on the screen prove it very clearly.

Of course, it’s probably irrelevant because our society is in an irreversible decline and there’s nothing we can do.


16 posted on 11/20/2008 6:57:20 AM PST by ShiveringShegetz (Yes, I'm Shivering!)
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To: mnehrling

The point behind this is that if the Texas legislature demands that I.D. or creationism be taught; those chosen to carry out the instruction (science teachers) are not a sympathetic audience to the unscientific claims of I.D. or the establishment of religion that teaching creationism would entail.

In other words, science teachers want science to be taught in science class.

World shaking outcome I know, but there you have it.


17 posted on 11/20/2008 7:02:15 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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To: mnehrling

The dumbing down of America, including its scientists, proceeds apace.


18 posted on 11/20/2008 7:25:32 AM PST by RoadTest (By their fruits shall ye know them.)
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To: FormerRep

It is not that Evolution should not be taught in Science class, it is the idea that the flaws in the theory should NOT be offered to the students as well.

How are students supposed to use their own senses to decide whether or not Evolution is complete, whole, and explains everything in toto...err...wait a minute, I guess the students should check their critical thinking skills at the door...which is the point isn’t it?


19 posted on 11/20/2008 7:41:53 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile...Rom 10.10..)
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To: VA_Gentleman

Cool, “expelled” is on the must watch list, along with IOUSA, right now there are some good film offerings to enjoy.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 7:44:11 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile...Rom 10.10..)
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