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1 posted on 11/20/2008 4:19:51 AM PST by NCDragon
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For one thing, Republicans need to draft legislation which prevents C-levels and board members from drawing huge compensation from public corporations that are being driven into the dirt.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 4:21:53 AM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: NCDragon
.... and how to move forward with rethinking, rebranding and repositioning for the days to come.

..that was the original problem

3 posted on 11/20/2008 4:23:29 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: NCDragon
" ... I hope the party ... "


No need to read any further.

4 posted on 11/20/2008 4:24:07 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: rabscuttle385; hiredhand; calcowgirl; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; indylindy
the practical, common-sense middle [...] a new generation of post-partisan problem solving [...] not pursuing rigid ideological agendas [or] bashing government...


5 posted on 11/20/2008 4:27:47 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: NCDragon

New contract for America, citing exacly the GOP positions and intentions - ammended and updated to highlight / reflect the opposite of what the new administration will surely do. (Pointing out thier libtardation)

We need the legislative back in 2010


6 posted on 11/20/2008 4:28:43 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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In the aftermath of the Obama Tsunami,

That was a tsunami?

Talk to me when a candidate gets 75% of the popular vote.

7 posted on 11/20/2008 4:31:24 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: NCDragon
my hope for our Grand Old Party is that party elders, activists and donors resist the ultimately self-defeating instinct to move toward narrow ideological dogma, negativism and unhelpful government-is-bad rhetoric.

Sam apparently didn't hear the message from the 2006 GOP defeat that gave both the House and Senate to the Dems.

Sam is pushing for the same-ole policies, bigger tent-ism, ideologies that got them canned in 2006 and in 2008.

Sam apparently didn't hear the message from 2008 GOP defeat that gave the White House to the Dems.

Sam is typical of what is wrong with the GOP leadership -- they are deaf, they are not listening, they are ignoring their base.

Verily, I say they continue to wander the wilderness of minority-ism wherein they will dwell for 40 years.
8 posted on 11/20/2008 4:31:37 AM PST by TomGuy
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“Obama tsunami”

I stopped reading there.

The left is trying to brand this as a Reagan-Carter type of landslide. It wasn't McCain got more votes than Clinton did.

58 million voted against Obama.

Why does the left think that conservatives will take advice on how to change the GOP from leftists who would rather see us locked up in jail than winning elections?

9 posted on 11/20/2008 4:35:47 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Camelot? JFK hated communism. Obama is a communist.)
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To cant away from such mainstream American thought and away from the practical, common-sense middle is precisely the wrong approach.

The title itself sounds like one of Zeros vapid platitudes recycled for Republican consumption. I am not sure how one gets more "middle" than John McCain. The middle is filled with some common sense, yet more mediocrity and a telegraph that says, "We have lost our will to fight and will compromise our beliefs for political expediency." What you do is govern, legislate and lead in such a way that the middle comes running to you. Our problem isn't that we need a re-branding. No, our problem is we have forgotten what our product was and have a done a poor job selling it to American voters.

12 posted on 11/20/2008 4:47:36 AM PST by WildcatClan (The Marxist will reycle the Clintonistas and call it "change".)
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To: NCDragon

Tsunami? 52% to 48%.

Just another RINO that has to excised from the party.
If you can’t be Republican and believe in Republican principle like smaller government and maybe just maybe actually being partisan why be a Republican?


13 posted on 11/20/2008 4:48:23 AM PST by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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Sam's a poster boy for the problem with the GOP.

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16 posted on 11/20/2008 4:49:31 AM PST by polymuser (Bye, bye Miss American Pie.)
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But the election is over and America and Washington need to put politics and division aside and get on with the collaborative and creative act of governing.

In other words, more of the same, tired good old boy one way bi-partisanship. Whatever it takes to keep screwing Americans. Yeah, that's the change we need, Sam. Idiot.

17 posted on 11/20/2008 4:51:19 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain Courted Socialism and Brought Us Marxism Instead)
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To: NCDragon; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Clemenza

Sam Reed certified the theft of the WA Governorship by the rodents. He’s nothing but a trojan horse Democrat.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 5:00:27 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: NCDragon

If the GOP heeds these Chuck Hagel Republicans, the Conservative Party will finally be a viable third party in the US.


23 posted on 11/20/2008 5:20:29 AM PST by kittymyrib
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YAY! Let's perpetuate the Bush/McCain slightly-bigger-government SOP. It has worked so well! Huge deficits, new entitlement programs, more corporate welfare, more nationalization of industries, more regulations "for the common good", higher unemployment, blind and pathetic fiscal policy, billions more in all forms of foreign aid (especially the corporate welfare kind for prime contractors) and disregard for American sovereignty. I'm been searching for a name ("neocon" fits but has been corrupted so much by misuse as to be meaningless) and I have one for the big-government types:

Cowardly Conservatives.

What is a cowardly conservative? First, they seem to cast themselves as pragmatic. But as an identifying feature, what they do is find and then stick a giant magnifying glass in front of a real bogeyman (or just fabricate a sufficiently large bogeyman from whole cloth) and then get the people to agree to all manner of insanity in order to be “protected” from the “staggeringly enormous threat”. Health-care costs, retirement funds, terrorism, mass bankruptcy, mass foreclosure, deflation, economic collapse, global warming, etc. Coward conservatives differ from liberals not in methods, but only in the targets for their manufactured fears.

This is how these "conservatives" sell activist federal government - by suggesting that the absence of intervention will always lead to a crisis, and that the government is merely "protecting" people from some threat (attaching to liberty a very low value, or perhaps treating it as a harmful liability) - mind you, it is not to protect our liberties, but to trade our liberties in for "less risk". It is an outgrowth of the 1930-1960 era Democrat party, where entitlement programs and additional government spending were announced to be necessary in order to head off some impending disaster. Both groups feed off of uncertainty and fear, and IMO both groups are largely sincere in their motivations (which makes it really sad).

When you see a Republican willing to trade YOUR liberties for something - security, subsidy, equality - call them by their chosen name:

Cowardly Conservatives.

The choice is between cowardice (activist government) and principle (limited government). The people who founded this country loved liberty more than they feared death. Quite a contrast against where we have sunk to today.

25 posted on 11/20/2008 6:02:46 AM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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“Obama Tsunami”

OMFG! STFU REED! 52.5-53% is a Tsumami? What a dingus!


29 posted on 11/20/2008 6:19:29 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: NCDragon
We have succeeded for 148 years by championing individual freedom and responsibility, equal rights and opportunities for all, fiscal conservatism, strong local and state governments, a vibrant free-enterprise system, conservation of our natural resources and a strong national defense.

It's been quite a few years since we've seen that. Instead, we have the likes of Sam telling us it is "narrow ideological dogma, negativism and unhelpful government-is-bad rhetoric" while politicians think bailouts of private industry, amnesty for illegal aliens, and global regulation of greenhouse gases are somehow a "pragmatic" view of the future. Pffft!

Dump the "rebranding" rhetoric and get back to basics.

32 posted on 11/20/2008 10:26:21 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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