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Leo Donofrio's Last Radio Interviews Before SCOTUS Dec. 5th Hearing on Eligibility of Obama & McCain
Natural Born Citizen Blog ^ | 11-19-2008 | Leo C. Donofrio

Posted on 11/19/2008 5:15:24 PM PST by Frantzie

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To: hoosiermama

Keyes has to exhaust lower courts first. That was an issue with the Leo case because the clerk docketed it wrong to look like he hadn’t.

I am still confused on the Mccain issue . I don’t know what the law as at the time Mccain was born but I know that the law at the time Obama was born was that he would not be a US citizen because of the residency requirements of his mother due to her age.

Leo seems to taking an unusual approach here as it pertains to Mccain. I haven’t quite figured out the strategy of that one.

The fact that Obama was trying to pass a resolution that said this:
“Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;”

makes him highly suspect. He was trying to cover all foreign born candidates.


21 posted on 11/19/2008 5:47:04 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
just thinking of the term they use in the CIA movies.

Rogue? Nah, that only applies to Sarah Palin.

22 posted on 11/19/2008 5:47:32 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: seekthetruth

that doesn’t quite seem right.

If I am born in Illinois or Hawaii and my mother is a US citizen and my father has a green card and it a British subject I should still be eligible to run for President.

So is there something that states BOTH parents must be US citizens before you can be eligible for President.


23 posted on 11/19/2008 5:51:12 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Frantzie

The Obamalith. Just trust it. It will tell you what to do. Obey it. Question it not.

I is...that I is...it matters not where I wuz borned....I is here now....in this place....and I am the PREZ!!

Now, go forth and SPREAD THE WEALTH!!!!

24 posted on 11/19/2008 5:53:25 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
...that neither Obama nor McCain were/are eligible under the Constitution? I was not aware that the Donofrio case made any such allegation.

I think he included McCain so as not to be "picking on" Zero. Although McCain has already shown his BC and Congress ruled he was eligible.

Did the resolution expanding the definition of “natural born citizen,” widely touted as a very gracious move by Obama toward his rival, fail?

It did fail, because the Naturalized Citizen clause.

25 posted on 11/19/2008 5:54:01 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: YellowRoseofTx; All

The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory at the time of McCain’s birth on Aug. 29, 1936.


26 posted on 11/19/2008 5:58:57 PM PST by Faith
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To: YellowRoseofTx
It did fail, because the Naturalized Citizen clause.

Then Congress ruled McCain eligible how?

27 posted on 11/19/2008 6:00:46 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: sneakers

The Supreme court is a little different. Clerks are lawyers and they actually help write opinions. There are those that feel the clerks influence the Justices and try to sway opinion. There was a poll done of former clerks and some indicated they had been able to change a Justice’s mind.

They are highly sought after when they leave the Court.

Bickell is a Stay Clerk. I don’t know what he is allowed to do and not do.

I wouldn’t think he would be allowed to deny an emergency stay request on his own.


28 posted on 11/19/2008 6:00:49 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Faith

McCain wasn’t born in the Zone, though, was he?


29 posted on 11/19/2008 6:02:16 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Then Congress ruled McCain eligible how?

Because McCain is a natural citizen, born in U.S territory to a father who was working in Panama on government business (as a diplomat? I think), living on a U.S. military base.

30 posted on 11/19/2008 6:05:49 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Coco Solo Naval Air Station


31 posted on 11/19/2008 6:06:51 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: YellowRoseofTx
born in U.S territory

If it were that simple, there would never have been any basis for controversy, no need for a "Sense Of The Senate," and certainly no need for a special resolution redefining "natural born citizen" from Barack Obama. I'm recalling that he wasn't born in US Territory, he was born in a hospital outside the Zone.

32 posted on 11/19/2008 6:09:40 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RummyChick

The resolution was “non-binding”.


33 posted on 11/19/2008 6:10:17 PM PST by tarpit
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To: RummyChick

Thought the main gist of Leo’s case is that there is NO ONE assigned to Vet the candidates. That by presenting all thre:. One born outside with two non-citizen parents, One with citizen parents born outside the country, and THE ONE , who parents were mixed and location of birth in questio

Leo claims that the Mixed CItizenship is enough to disquality BO....I wish he’d throw in the (Berg Case) BC? affidavits from Kenya just to make sure. Can Leo use Berg as a witness? Is there any way to combine all three/seventeen into a class action suit?
Can they be heard before the EC meets?


34 posted on 11/19/2008 6:10:25 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Leo mentioned that the Senate “ruling” to say McCain was eligble was meaningless and illegal. They cannot decide it. I think only SCOTUS can. ??

Leo is on now!
http://www.plainsradio.com/chat.html


35 posted on 11/19/2008 6:12:04 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: hoosiermama

Our elected officials (Prothonotary, Clerk of Court) and their First Deputies, I believe, take an oath. I don’t know if the rest of the clerks in the office do or not. I’ll have to ask about that one.


36 posted on 11/19/2008 6:14:02 PM PST by sneakers
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To: RummyChick

Did Coco Solo Hospital exist in 1936? If not, he was born in Colon, Panama, and not the Canal Zone. Isn’t that what his birth certificate indicates?


37 posted on 11/19/2008 6:15:03 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: YellowRoseofTx
Congress passed a non-binding resolution. See Michigan Law Review First Impressions Volume 107 for issues about McCain.
38 posted on 11/19/2008 6:15:07 PM PST by tarpit
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To: seekthetruth
In summary you need parents who are U.S. Citizens at the time of your birth and you must be born on U.S. soil to be a “natural born” U.S. citizen.Says who? If both parents are citizens you are automatically a citizen at birth, ie: NATURAL BORN citizen. ALL citizens are of two types: NATURAL BORN or NATURALIZED. McCain is NATURAL BORN. He was a citizen due to the facts of his birth. The claim about Obama is that he is NOT a Natural Born citizen, and (because we know he never went through the ONLY process to become a citizen if you are not a natural born citizen- NATURALIZATION -- he is, in fact NOT A CITIZEN AT ALL. (Therefore unable to serve in the Senate. Illegally living in the USA. Time to go BACK TO KENYA and apply for a VISA or IMMIGRATION.) There is no condition where one is born a CITIZEN but not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. There are only TWO conditions vis-a-vis citizenship when you are born: you either ARE ONE or you ARE NOT ONE. If the filer could not figure this out I don't hold out much hope for his lawsuit.
39 posted on 11/19/2008 6:15:50 PM PST by Jack Black (NO MANDATORY SERVICE IN THE OBAMA-YOUTH !)
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To: Faith
The 1936 Hull-Alfaro Treaty termed the Canal Zone as the "territory of the Republic of Panama under the jurisdiction of the United States of America. ...

I think that is what is being questioned.

40 posted on 11/19/2008 6:16:02 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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