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Cardinal George has, however, personally analyzed FOCA and expressed his grave concerns about the legislation. In a message to the Obama Administration at the end of the USCCB meeting George wrote on FOCA, saying it would, "outlaw any ‘interference’ in providing abortion at will. It would deprive the American people in all fifty states of the freedom they now have to enact modest restraints and regulations on the abortion industry. FOCA would coerce all Americans into subsidizing and promoting abortion with their tax dollars. It would counteract any and all sincere efforts by government and others of good will to reduce the number of abortions in our country."

Obama and his crowd don't want to reduce the number of abortions, they want as much death as possible.

1 posted on 11/19/2008 3:56:31 PM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 11/19/2008 3:57:43 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 11/19/2008 3:58:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I wonder if Osmara Barek would outlaw Cathoics talk about abortion PROBABLY MOST LIKELY maybe Bishop big mouths like me I talk


4 posted on 11/19/2008 4:00:02 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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War?? From what I saw, all the “soldiers” already defected to Obama.


5 posted on 11/19/2008 4:00:55 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Free Brightside!)
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Deep down, I think the “Obama administration” is in for a shocker when it comes to how many people REALLY (that really matter in the structure and function of our society) dislike the idea of Obama in the Oval Office....our enemies as well, are already making jokes about him, and celebrating a foreign-affairs and defense weak president.


6 posted on 11/19/2008 4:01:31 PM PST by EagleUSA
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If the Catholic Church discovers that there are sins other than murder this country will be set right.
Thou shall not covet thy neighbors’ goods(wealth). I have been trying to get Christian leaders and activists to take up this cry. With no success. It’s easy to preach against abortion and homosexuality knowing that you won’t offend your constituents. It is a whole other matter to take a stand against government-mediated coveting. Nearly everyone is getting some kind of handout.
U.S. politics and government at all levels is driven by covetousness. It got Obama elected.


7 posted on 11/19/2008 4:03:00 PM PST by all the best
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God have mercy on us.

I question..how I pay taxes that will be used to abort pre-born persons?


8 posted on 11/19/2008 4:03:59 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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It’s likely to be too little, too late. The modernist bishops let things slide for too many years after Vatican II. This is the deadly harvest.


9 posted on 11/19/2008 4:04:39 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Let the vicious anti-Catholic fetishism commence!


12 posted on 11/19/2008 4:06:31 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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Yep, but the Churchgoers in my family still voted for Alfred E. Obama.


13 posted on 11/19/2008 4:06:31 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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what would happen if the Pope himself personally spoke out against this?


16 posted on 11/19/2008 4:07:56 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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The idea that Obama supporting bishops will close down the Catholic hospitals in their dioceses is nonsense. Obama will give them an out and they will trip over themselves as they run to take it.

The out may be that some floor in the Catholic hospital will be run by some other entity (abortuary) and therefore it is not “really” the hospital performing the abortions. I have heard of it happening in a diocese in the past.

22 posted on 11/19/2008 4:10:16 PM PST by dominic flandry
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35 posted on 11/19/2008 4:24:08 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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37 posted on 11/19/2008 4:26:13 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Under this dictator, maybe Catholics will be the equivalent of the Jews under Hitler. Off with their heads, or off to re-education camps. True persecution of people of faith could be on the horizon.


39 posted on 11/19/2008 4:33:24 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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I find it very telling that the Pope does not speak up on this. Bishops in dioceses where it is overwhelmingly pro life might be speaking up, but if its in a diocese where it may cause a drop off in the offering plate there is dead silence. A universal condemnation from the Pope would affect church wide giving and therefore is not going to happen.


48 posted on 11/19/2008 4:38:20 PM PST by gscc
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Please. If the Catholics were serious then it would of happened 30 years ago. I double dog dare you to cross this line!
51 posted on 11/19/2008 4:41:08 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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If 0bama signs FOCA, it’s time for the RCC to remind everyone why we have statues of martyrs in our churchs. I’m not talking about anyone losing their life. I’m talking about excommunicating every so-called Catholic politico who votes for it, shutting down Catholic hospitals, etc.

We’d take beating in the short term and be ridiculed. But, it would be a stronger church in the end and we would probably gain as members as we would lose by retaining our integrity.


53 posted on 11/19/2008 4:42:53 PM PST by Lou Budvis (0bama, Spread your own ------n wealth)
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If the Church were to close down hospitals all over the U.S., what’s to stop Obama from confiscating private property and reopening it under federal control?

Don’t tell me it’s illegal because the commies don’t care.


54 posted on 11/19/2008 4:43:19 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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All people of faith need to join/stick together before it is too late.


83 posted on 11/19/2008 5:12:07 PM PST by ncpatriot
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