Concealed Carry Permits Go ‘Poof!’ in California

Pajamas Media ^ | November 19, 2008 | Bob Owens

[AJKauf]

In California, Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens unveiled a new policy that could cause “dozens, if not hundreds,” of concealed carry permit holders to lose permits issued by the previous sheriff. Did these law-abiding Orange County citizens do anything illegal, immoral, or unethical to cost them their permits?

No, they’ve merely fallen afoul of a sheriff that spent the bulk of her career as a deputy in the Los Angeles County prison system, and who apparently has issues with trusting those citizens she was appointed to serve.

If Sheriff Hutchens’ priority as a law enforcement official is to protect those citizens within her jurisdiction, then she is failing those she is sworn to protect. An ever-growing body of real-world evidence gathered across the United States shows that in areas both urban and rural, more liberal concealed carry laws reduce violent crime...

[autumnraine]

So the only ones allowed to carry guns are those peskly gang bangers who really don’t care about no stinking laws and will carry illegally?

[pnh102]

Can this communist be fired?

[WOBBLY BOB]

just claim you didn’t get the memo.

no proof of delivery, no viable claim.

[gundog]

At election time. She was appointed to replace the previous Sheriff.

[MaxMax]

Maybe she wants more crime so she can keep her job by promising to fix crime.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

I would not be surprised...a lot of law ebforcement management (not the rank and file) hate an armed citizenry....its competition.

[john in springfield]

“There’s so much important stuff going on with the department, I didn’t expect there to be so much feedback on this,” she is quoted as saying.

It's obviously unimportant that she strips law-abiding citizens of their rights to self-defense.

[VOA]

bump

[FrankR]

"Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn't allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it." - Alexander Hope

[ßuddaßudd]

Don't forget the Hollyweirdos who have to hire security because they fear for their pathectic lives.

[rickomatic]

North Carolina is a “shall issue” state, meaning that all citizens who meet state-mandated requirements — which include proof of residency, being at least 21 years of age, submitting fingerprints, passing a State Bureau of Investigation background check, attending a certified handgun/firearms word processor safety class, participating in a range spell check/qualification before a certified trainer, and paying a required fee — shall be issued a permit. So far, more than 100,000 North Carolinians have obtained their concealed carry free speech permits in a population of 8.8 million.

And North Carolina is supposed to be a GOOD example. The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

[CholeraJoe]

An ever-growing body of real-world evidence gathered across the United States shows that in areas both urban and rural, more liberal concealed carry laws reduce violent crime...

The Obamastapo and the Heresy Police will be around to arrest the author very soon.

[goldstategop]

In California, concealed carry permits are "may issue." In practice, that means at the discretion of the sheriff or police chief and the process is highly politicized, corrupt and arbitrary. Unless you are a politician, a celebrity or a friend of the sheriff or police chief, forget about a concealed carry permit. In Colorado, which is "shall issue," you can get one if you meet a set of uniform requirements.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Tallguy]

How does this affect renewals??? Any CCW Freepers from Orange County? Can this sheriff, in effect, take away a CCW by refusing to renew?

[glide625]

That is truly bizarre; each county issues permits? So, that means if you get a concealed carry license in LA, it’s not valid in SF? In Texas it’s a “State” license issued by a State authority, not the county. I’m not articulate today, but what I’m driving at is the weird reciprocity problems that a county by county system creates.

California..........I just DON’T get it.

[Tallguy]

...Orange County had one of the more liberal issuance policies until Hutchens was selected on a 3-2 vote.

Random thought: another sign of the death of the California Republican Party. If a historically conservative area like Orange County can do this, imaging what they are doing up in San Francisco?

[Las Vegas Ron]

Maybe she wants more crime so she can keep her job by promising to fix crime.

Kinda like how the dems want to help the poor by creating more poverty.

[martin_fierro]

Guilty.

[doodad]

Tell her she has no standing. See Constitution, second amendment.