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Greece to recognize Kosovo independence soon?
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Posted on 11/19/2008 7:22:51 AM PST by kronos77

Pristina. The Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyanis has said that Greece would soon recognize the independence of Kosovo, the Serbian TV channel Studio B reports, citing Kosovo press. In an interview for the Albanian TV channel Vision Plus Bakoyannis has said that the exact date for the recognition is still not clear, but it would happen soon. According to the Minister the Kosovo problem was one of the oldest on the Balkans.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: balkans; dhimmwit; greece; islamofascists; jihad; kosovo; muslim; serbia
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To: NYC Republican

I have NO problem with Russian people... It was the Soviet commie invasion that I was clearly referring to.


Of course and that was what I was referring to.


21 posted on 11/19/2008 1:37:45 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Citizen Blade

You are obviously new to this discussion and to the whole topic of invasions pre or post WWII. Post WWII we are talking about Soviets and Marxist Leninists not Russians.


22 posted on 11/19/2008 1:40:16 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: NYC Republican
Are you really denying that at the heart, the USSR was Russian?

NO doubt about it. Absolutely I'm denying it

The “heart” of Communism as practiced in the USSR lies not in the beautiful Russian soul of Orthodox Russia but rather in the West, most immediately with the ravings of Marx and Engels and Lenin and previous to them Darwin and before him the Enlightenment philosophes.

Homos Sovieticus is alive and well in every stinking corner of the world especially here in the USA.

23 posted on 11/19/2008 1:51:42 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Citizen Blade
"I agree. But, partition seems to be off the table and the idea that Serb tanks are going to roll back into Kosovo is a delusion. So, what's the solution?"

Patience. Wait until the US is over its love affair with the Albanians a/o NATO's power and influence begin to wane. Then ALL bets will be off.

24 posted on 11/19/2008 2:04:10 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: eleni121
You are obviously new to this discussion and to the whole topic of invasions pre or post WWII. Post WWII we are talking about Soviets and Marxist Leninists not Russians.

The Soviet Union was, what, 75% Russian? Soviet and Marxist-Leninist are not mutually exclusive from Russian.

It's a cop-out to claim that Russians were somehow not responsible for the Soviet Union brutalizing and enslaving its neighbors. Who gets the blame for that, then?

25 posted on 11/19/2008 2:19:37 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: eleni121
The “heart” of Communism as practiced in the USSR lies not in the beautiful Russian soul of Orthodox Russia but rather in the West

Nonsense. The people of the Russian Empire made their own bed and created the Soviet Union. Don't blame the West.

most immediately with the ravings of Marx and Engels and Lenin and previous to them Darwin and before him the Enlightenment philosophes.

Lenin was born and bred in the Russian Empire, so you can't pretend he was some sort of foreigner. And what does it say about Russians that they fell for the nonsense of Marxism and Communism while their contemporaries in the West rejected it? (sometimes, violently so).

Russians have always been fond of blaming others for their own problems. That doesn't fly.

26 posted on 11/19/2008 2:25:33 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Bokababe
Then ALL bets will be off.

And the cycle of revenge and pointless retributions that have made the Balkans such a pleasant place can then continue anew.

Wonderful.

27 posted on 11/19/2008 2:27:57 PM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

Read Solzhenitsyn and then read him again.

He is the most singularly honest and truthful source of information about the Soviet Union pre during and post.


28 posted on 11/19/2008 2:53:19 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Citizen Blade
"And the cycle of revenge and pointless retributions that have made the Balkans such a pleasant place can then continue anew. Wonderful."

I didn't say that is what I want to happen, but I believe that IS what will happen.

We stole sovereign Serbian land, and gave it to the Albanians. We allowed thousands of non-Albanians to be murdered on our watch and even killed a few thousand on our own. We allowed hundreds of thousands of non-Albanians to be expelled from Kosovo under our noses and have done nothing to facilitate their return. We allowed Muslim Albanians to tear down over 150 ancient Christian churches. We have allowed innocent Serb civilians (including some from a mental institution) to be kidnapped and killed so that the Albanians could sell off their organs, and we have not raised a single finger to catch the culprits. We take the Albanians side at every turn and never miss an opportunity to screw Serbs and Serbia, over & over again.

After all that, what else can you reasonably expect as an outcome?

Where do you think that this "cycle of revenge" started? It has been the result of invaders from the outside continually intervening and rearranging the Balkans to suit their interests, and then a backlash to put things back when they leave. The Balkans has always been used as "Europe's chessboard", and while the outside players change, the game is always paid with Balkan blood. All invaders say that they "come to bring peace" and all they do is "set up the next war". This time is no different than all the times before it.

29 posted on 11/19/2008 2:55:00 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Citizen Blade

cycle of revenge and pointless retributions


Will you say that when we are forced to return land to Mexico?... and they have a far far better claim to land than the Albanian Shiptars who have none to Kosovo in fact.


30 posted on 11/19/2008 3:02:41 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Citizen Blade; Bokababe; kronos77

Would Reagan recognize the seizure of Aztlan by illegal immigrants who then declared independence?

Then why should the Serbs?

They know the foreign troops will grow tired and go home one day, and the fiction of Kosovo independence will pass like a candle flame in a wind tunnel.


31 posted on 11/19/2008 3:18:08 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Hoplite

Ok, the Dhimmitude wing of Free Republic has gotten his say on this thread.


32 posted on 11/19/2008 3:19:03 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Citizen Blade
This is how the Serbs in Kosovo are living. It's not like it can stay like this forever. Sooner or later something will have to give.
33 posted on 11/19/2008 3:46:22 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: NYC Republican; eleni121; Bokababe; Citizen Blade; FormerLib

To tell you the truth, first anti-western scentiment in Russia came just after 1917, and russian tzarists and nationalists blamed west for “exporting Lenin into Russia”.
As for the communists, sllmost none of them were Russians. I cant realy remember a Russian leader of USSR

If we want to play blame-game, by Russian far right and ultranationalists there is no term “communism” but they use “Judeo-Communism”, they blame communism on Jewsand western nations. Why? Most of leaders of communist party were Jews.
That blame-game is stupid and wrong, and specialy blaming the Jews on Communism.
Well, as stupid as your blaming Russians for Communism.

Why?

I dont blame USA for NWO (thing even worser than communism) although USA is the strike-force of NWO.

People in Russia, Belarus, Serbia, Bulgaria etc. are calling USA “Sorosland”

Are they right?
No. They are wrong.

Russia was first VICTIME of communism as same as USA is first victime of NWO.

Both ideologies are horrible infections that overtage the body of the victime-state and use that states as its drones.


34 posted on 11/20/2008 8:57:31 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
To tell you the truth, first anti-western scentiment in Russia came just after 1917, and russian tzarists and nationalists blamed west for “exporting Lenin into Russia”.

Again, Lenin was a Russian. He was not some foreign import foisted on the Russians.

As for the communists, sllmost none of them were Russians.

Really?

I cant realy remember a Russian leader of USSR

Lenin. Chernenko. Krushchev. Andropov. Gorbachev.

35 posted on 11/20/2008 9:54:47 AM PST by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

Krushchev for one, was Ukrainian...


36 posted on 11/20/2008 10:31:32 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: Hoplite
...regardless of what the hard core dead enders hereabouts would say...

Why not; "name some names" i.e. who the dead enders are??...Rather than stabbing such individuals in the back.

Of course, I'm most likely asking too much.

37 posted on 11/21/2008 10:44:59 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: kronos77

Soros is, IMO, one of the biggest threats to democracy and capitalism. He is a very, very dangerous slimeball.


38 posted on 11/22/2008 2:20:00 PM PST by NYC Republican (This Too Shall Pass- in 8 years.. how much destruction will they create?)
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To: Citizen Blade

AGAIN and again and again-—LENIN was not Russian in any form shape or way...except like our own defacto president a marxist ideologue.

his ethnic ancestry included jewish, German, Lithuanian, Kalmyk....but no relationship to Russian Christian Orthodoxy except a relationship of hate.


39 posted on 09/05/2009 10:31:42 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: Citizen Blade

The only man in that stupid list is Gorbachev who wsa born into a Russian Orthodox family (his mother)—and although faith has affected him through Reagan his mother and his wife he remains an atheist as he claims- the others are pretenders and would laugh at the term ethnicity. They are Commnists-—their ethnicity and religion.


40 posted on 09/05/2009 10:47:12 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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