Posted on 11/19/2008 6:17:01 AM PST by jmaroneps37
Let me say this very clearly: Unions today are essentially bagmen for Democrats. They extort dues from helpless workers take their cut and kickback the rest to the Democrat Party.
In many locations all, state and local government workers are compelled to join a union if they want to get hired. Agency shop laws see that no one escapes union extortion.. While unions were started to protect workers from evil management their members now generally need protection from evil labor bosses.
The Union Autoworkers Union is such a union. Over the past decades its membership rolls have fallen and its ability to actually make a contribution to the American economy has declined as well.
Auto manufacturing companies now spend their money paying for healthcare benefits and non-productive laid off unionized workers who are getting up to 95% of their normal pay. In some cases this goes on for years.
Any money given to the Auto Industry would actually be going to the Democrats in Michigan and the state of Michigan. I dont want one dime of my money going to either one.
The problem wont be fixed unless the Auto makers stop being welfare agencies instead of the industrial powerhouses they should be.
Bankruptcy is now the only option for fixing this mess. The standard Democrat answer of shoveling money at this problem will make it worse because it will embolden the UAW to demand more money. They're already saying they will not re-negotiate existing contracts despite certain knowledge there is no money to continue the contacts currently in place.
We have to cut our losses; allow the natural industrial genius of America enterprise to save itself. Only a self-generated solution will work. Temporary fixes wont work ; they will only invite more problems.
Bankruptcy is the answer.
(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...
With 60 votes in the senate?...............
Did anyone heard Dodd say at the hearing that it is fine and dandy for union workers to get full pay when not working? Obviously with these morons in charge we will go in to a new Greater Depression. The Fed has chosen deflation over inflation. Obama and his bottom up economy combined with the blithering idiots in Washington spell DOOM for the USA.
Wisconsin’s two Democratic senators favor the bailout. Sen. Russ Feingold said the $25 billion should come out of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout. It would be on top of a $25 billion loan program Congress created in September to help the automakers develop more fuel-efficient vehicles. The senator said it must have protections for taxpayers and require the automakers to make more fuel-efficient cars while taking advantage of their existing workforce.
Sen. Herb Kohl said the aid must be in the form of a loan and include accountability and the expectations of big changes to revive and renew the industry. He said it’s doubtful Congress can reach a consensus on the economic stimulus plan before reconvening in January.
The union spent more than $400 million on the election. The article was in the WSJ. This speake volumes.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122592993592603103.html
1. Cars that are far too expensive
2. Cars that lack the quality of many foriegn makes
3. Comapny mismanagement
4. Union excesses
5. Unions period.
A short list of reason why taxpayers dollars should not be used to bailout the Auto Industry.
Is this America? When did we become the Socialist Republic of America? I mean except this past election..
Business suceeds and business fails based on the product and the quaility of the product and the competiveness of the workers etc.
NO MORE BAILOUTS.
Let the Auto Companies fail and allow someone to come in and make then leaner smarter and better then they were.
This bailout is nothing more than a sub-prime loan of gigantic proportions. Have we learned nothing over the last year?
Bailout money will go to sustain an uneconomic business model that arose because for decades the companies and the unions conspired together to rip off the consumer. Worked great (for them) as long as there was no real alternative for most consumers.
It would be much more honest for the government to announce that it would be paying taxpayer money directly into the accounts of car company executives and workers so they can continue to be rewarded more handsomely than most of those who are now paying their salaries.
Plus, these jerks (CEO’s) all flew on private jets (cost of approximately $20K roundtrip) to DC to ask for the money. Let them go bankrupt!!
It will be very interesting to see how the left continues its socialism and vote buying after it has killed the golden goose. Even the far-left Rooney family is selling the Steelers, rather than pay Obamas (their guy, of course) cap gains extortion. When the rich have moved their money, or themselves, away from the danger of a Marxist state, who will be left to rob? How will the votes get bought? How will the labor unions support a party which can no longer support them? What a tragedy for a once great nation. Lessons learned thus far: a country cannot pay its non-producers to breed, import and pay for illegals and allow radicals a free hand and hope to remain a country at all, let alone a great one. It will be great fun to see if enough patriots reamin to take the nation back. The sooner Hussein and his communist supporters overthrow the 2nd amendment, the better. Perhaps that will spark a second chance at freedom.
The libs should know a 25 billion bailout is nothing more than a band-aid that won't stick. Within 6 weeks or less they will be back for another 25 billion.
If you need to hire a manager for your company, would you hire one of these executives?
I say no, then why would we put our grandchildren future in the hands of a failure?
It's not just the rich. I see a trend among my upper-middle class friends. More vacation time, less work. More gaming the system, less real production. Two that were laid off in the last year took no real action to find jobs. Both had substantial savings, and both had good ideas for small businesses to work on. Both have taken the maximum in "unemployment insurance". One lives on a 10 acre farm and is largely self sufficient. He is looking forward to "Obama-Care" as health insurance is a major expense.
The idea that Obama can simultaneously give away more and more to his minority and socialist constituants while keeping Joe the Plumber, Sam his Boss, and Fred the 80 hour-a-week Corporate Mid-Manager all working hard to fund it is a fantasy. People are not stupid. If new benefits "for the poor" are created many people will figure out how to "be poor".
As my friend Ben the Tax Attorney says: "it's not about what you make, it's about what you keep." Most people instinctively know this.
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