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UAW leader: Workers will make no more concessions
The Napa Valley Register / The Associated Press ^
| November 15, 2008
| Mark Williams
Posted on 11/15/2008 2:52:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“UAW leader: Workers will make no more concessions”
Well, then. Enjoy your new careers at Wal-Mart—if you’re lucky to get hired.
I’ll never buy another UAW car. Promise.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:33:46 PM PST
by
clintonh8r
("My friends, we've got them just where we want them." McCain. Or Custer.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
UAW leader: Workers will make no more concessions You guys have been expecting the Big 3 and their customers to take it in the shorts for th last 40 years or so, now it's your turn.
Instant karma is my favorite kind.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:34:36 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger said Saturday that
workers will not make any more concessions
Finally.
I'd been wondering where the UAW stood in this situation.
The only big wigs I see/hear on TV are Rick Wagoner of GM and
Mullaly (sp?) of Ford.
Well the UAW always wanted to decide the fate of their industry.
I underestimated the intensity of their death-wish.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:36:37 PM PST
by
VOA
To: truthguy
Earlier this year I was behind a Ford with an extra-large bumper-sticker that proclaimed that it was built, owned and driven by Americans. My immediate thought was, “So was the Honda in the next lane...what’s your point?”
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:40:03 PM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess $72/hour is just barely enough to put food on the table
these days. Who knew?
IIRC, it's more like $80/hour. At least I think that the "cost/hour"
to the employer.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:40:21 PM PST
by
VOA
To: Alas Babylon!
“promote and support liberals over conservatives”
The unions operate on Soviet style communism. BIG Guys get money, LITTLE guys starve. Am I describing the mob?
To: WKUHilltopper
Well, then. Enjoy your new careers at Wal-Martif youre
lucky to get hired.
Good heavens...don't give them any ideas!
As soon as Obama gets that "no secret ballots on unionization votes",
and all those ex-auto workers of the UAW beg jobs at Wal-Mart...
watch prices go up about 10%-25%.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:43:52 PM PST
by
VOA
To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Would you buy a car from a bankrupt automaker?" he asked.
A manufacturer reorganizing in bankruptcy wouldn't stop me from buying their car.
But I won't buy one from an automaker that's getting bailed out by the gov't.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:44:35 PM PST
by
javachip
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I say okay then flise the toilet and see what happens to them then !
Republicans are going to filibuster the bill!
Posted here today.
Go repubs.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:45:25 PM PST
by
stockpirate
($300 MDUS in illegal donations to O's campaign. Stolen election, where's the outrage?)
To: realcleanguy
Kind of amazing. The Unions would rather the UAW workers lost their
jobs rather than take a pay cut.
Simply amazing
On the contrary, entirely predictable.
The union boss is playing hardball, betting the Congress
either in December or in January under Obama will breath deeply
and ride to the rescue of GM, Chrysler and sooner or later Ford.
Next year Obama will be hailed for saving X million jobs and
preserving a key voting block and source of DNC funds.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:48:16 PM PST
by
VOA
To: raybbr
>>>>>>>>Where did you get that figure? (72) That's absurd.<<<<<<<<<<
----
Looks like it was $73 per hour in 2007
per Windsor Star --
[snip]
The United Auto Workers will enjoy at least a $10-an-hour wage advantage to start over their counterparts in the Canadian Auto Workers after they approve a contract with General Motors, industry analyst Dennis DesRosiers says.
The new contract will allow GM to achieve "huge cost reductions" from the $73-per-hour it currently spends on wages, benefits, pensions and retiree health benefits, DesRosiers said.
Analyst warns U.S. auto deal threatens Canadian jobs Windsor Star Published: Tuesday, October 02, 2007
LINK Windsor Star
To: FlingWingFlyer
"...saying action is necessary before President-elect Barack Obama takes office in January."
What is that supposed to mean? The unions helped get the Kenyan Manchild "elected." GM at least might not last that long.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:50:47 PM PST
by
sionnsar
(Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
To: JasonC
actually a UAW free company is a marketing POSITIVE!
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:51:10 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: muawiyah
Look at all the good used cars available for 8-12k.If the big 3 went under there wouldn’t be a shortage of cars for a couple of years at least.By then Toyota,Honda and others will have expanded production.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:51:46 PM PST
by
Farmer Dean
(168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
To: realcleanguy
Kind of amazing. The Unions would rather the UAW workers lost their jobs rather than take a pay cut. Simply amazing Not really. The union is all about union power, not about the union members. Once you understand this concept you understand why they would prefer that people be out of work then to give any signal of weakness.
To: Petronski
I predict they will make concessions in bankruptcy.Yes, after the $25,000,000,000 is wasted on UAW employee buyouts of about $100,000 each. Then and only then will GM petition for Chapter 11 relief.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:52:08 PM PST
by
CharacterCounts
(Wanted: Snappy, erudite tag line.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Screw them. Unless they cut their pay, change the work rules, reduce the legacy healthcare benefits then they cannot compete with Toyo or Honda.
What is incredible is O/CRA/Fannie/Freddie did scam mortgages forcing banks to lend to people who would never repay. Banks and Wall Street tried a variety of BS securities to try to paper over the problem. Capitalist bled to detah by socialism taking on more risk to try to compensate for crushing socialism.
The management at GM and Ford have tried every possible idea to keep the automakers afloat to pay the UAW extortion. Financing, making it up on service, just about anything to keep the ship afloat.
Capitalism trying to keep it going as they get socialism (UAW/Fannie/Freddie) jammed down their throats.
I am amazed the mgmt at Ford and GM have been able to keep this going as long as they have.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:52:25 PM PST
by
Frantzie
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tee hee. Wait and see what happens when you no longer have a job at all, numbskull.
Even giving them 25B won’t do anything but put off the inevitable for a year or two.
The UAW leaders might be the ones facing the hatred of the members when they find they have no jobs and no pensions.
As far as bankruptcy goes I’d bet that all three companies would continue making cars uninterruptedly. Some enterprising company would buy them up and lay the facts down. The employees would show up to work then next day and accept whatever the new management offered.
Where else are such losers going to go? Who would hire a freaking UAW member who wasn’t forced to? LOL!
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:54:21 PM PST
by
Seruzawa
(If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands.)
To: truthguy
Eastern Airlines - perfect analogy. I sympathize with the white collar workers trying to keep dead companies alive as the unions bleed them to death. Sad.
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posted on
11/15/2008 3:54:25 PM PST
by
Frantzie
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