even if the union RATS quit making cars tomorrow, there will still be enough used cars till the day i die... screw-em!!!
Posted on 11/15/2008 2:52:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Even as Detroit's Big Three teeter on collapse, United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger said Saturday that workers will not make any more concessions and that getting the automakers back on their feet means figuring out a way to turn around the slumping economy.
"The focus has to be on the economy as a whole as opposed to a UAW contract," Gettelfinger told reporters on a conference call, noting the labor costs now make up 8 percent to 10 percent of the cost of a vehicle. "We have made dramatic, dramatic changes and the UAW was applauded for that," he said.
Instead, Gettelfinger blamed the problems the auto industry is suffering from on things beyond its control _ the housing slump, the credit crunch that has made financing a vehicle tough and the 1.2 million jobs that have been lost in the past year. "We're here not because of what the auto industry has done," he said. "We're here because of what has happened to the economy."
Gettelfinger also called on Congress to act quickly on a bailout plan for the auto industry, saying action is necessary before President-elect Barack Obama takes office in January. He said if one automaker were to file for bankruptcy, the others may follow. He said the automakers would find it difficult to restructure under bankruptcy laws and instead could end up out of business. "Would you buy a car from a bankrupt automaker?" he asked.
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Good thing I'm not involved this. I said, “okay, quick and simple, take or leave it. If you don't like it, join the unemployment lines and make a fraction of what you're making now. Do that and you know the union reps will still be getting their wages and benefits while you're walking the streets for a new job.”
BTTT! Right on the mark!
AS I have said before on FR, the bailouts are there to protect just that. See the government see’s the money as a pass through to itself.
So although some will disappear to congress critters personal wants and needs, a large chunk will just come back to the government.
This money is not for the auto manufacturers, but for the government and a slice for it's cronies like the unions, acorn, and planned parenthood...et-al.
“Even giving them 25B won’t do anything but put off the inevitable for a year or two.”
6 months tops.
“As long as the plants are in the USA the workers must be members of the UAW.”
Are you sure? Most of the Toyota plants in the U.S. are not union.
Repubs should demand:
1. The ability to develop shale oil, coal diesel and ND oil which is FOUR times the Saudi’s reserves in the lower 48 states. Especially on fed land. Also able to go after hydrate gas in Alaska that could heat 100 million homes for a decade in America. Sarah already has the pipeline for it that she fought for. No CO2 BS.
2. More nuke plants.
3. More refineries.
4. Changes in work rules and salary cuts to make Ford, GM and Chrysler more competitive.
If we want to “save” Detroit - make it comprehensive so the automakers can actually be competitive.
Pelosi & Reids NO Energy Policy aftrer getting power in 2006 gave us $4.50 gas.
Bamabi’s CRA/ACRON/Fannie & Freddie scams wiped out the financial system and economy.
This is why we are where we are. Socialism and Gore’s version of psycho “environmentalism” whcih is just a scam to rip off taxpayers.
I guess that was my point, lol.
My ignorance stems from living in a state with very little union presence. And I sincerely hope it remains that way.
So how does this POS Gettelfinger explain Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Mitsubishi, and Mazda not needing a bailout?
The union bosses will keep control of the Union pension, they don’t need GM or the workers.
A parasite that kills its host can’t survive.
Unions want to bleed their host just shy of killing it.
I say let the host die and build a better organism on the corpse that’s free of the parasite.
Model the new companies on the foreign makers that manufacture vehicles here. Their costs are a fraction of those of the companies that knuckled under to the union thugs.
We’ll keep jobs here and the capital that now goes to Japan and S. Korea.
Patco and Eastern Airlines Machinists played this game of chicken.
That's great!
There are presently five American-company vehicles in my driveway, including a Durango, a Ford Explorer, a GMC pickup, an Olds, and a Pontiac. If the scumbag UAW gets this bailout, I will never again buy an American-company vehicle. THAT is a promise.
Cat workers close to us in York, PA did the same thing. They wanted a raise of everything.
Cat told them they would close the plants and move somewhere else if there was no some concessions. Cat was asking for just some minor concessions and deferments, The $30/hr workers want out on strike and collected their $175 a week strike pay.
The government asked them to go back to work, the president did, the congress critters did. This strung over like 6 months. CAT made one more offer that the workers rejected. CAT closed the plant.
It now sits vacant except a small part that the local municipalities use as a “Small Business Incubator”
So the workers lost their jobs, the local municipalities lost the tax base (Business Incubators do not pay many taxes), CAT had the expense of moving to another location out of state. But they did not pay the outrageous money the union wanted and went on to have some decent years
Did the union “soldiers, lieutenants, and bosses” loose any pay? No, they were offered jobs in another state where a strike was going on. Only the workers and local municipalities made out bad.
IIRC, the union bosses bragged about putting Eastern out of business. How many union employees lost their jobs because of the unions?
Mark
That’s kind of odd. They never talk about using wages, insurance and benefits when talking about other professions. I guess it’s just so they can bash union members and make it look like they are getting something that others aren’t when they really are (health insurance and benefits).
Needed: an old-fashioned lockout, complete with Pinkertons.
even if the union RATS quit making cars tomorrow, there will still be enough used cars till the day i die... screw-em!!!
Before I bought my first Toyota Corolla, I was looking at comparable Ford and Chevy products.
The Ford was built in Canada, the Chevy in Mexico, and the Toyota in the USA...
Mark
Consider your self lucky. Union thinking spills over to every aspect of life.
I live in Florida, a right to work state. I spent many years in Illinois, watching
and experiencing the union way of life. I watched it ruin a very large company
in International Harvester heavy equipment division over minimal contract negotiations.
The union members that had the ability to see what was up, tried to find other means of employment
but IH had a large union work force, and jobs were few and far between. The surrounding
towns relied on Harvester for their economies, the union didn't give a $hit
they went on strike, knowing they were killing the economy of the locals. That was in the '70s
and since then a Japanese co. or Korean, not sure since I've moved out of state,
has bought out the carcass of a once great employer.
end rant
Is that the guy from star wars? Darth Siuth.
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