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Pawlenty Raises "Moderate" Flag at RGA (We've got another McCainiac RINO in our midst)
Human Events ^ | November 14, 2008 | Jack Thompson

Posted on 11/15/2008 11:29:10 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative

The “Republican governor eyeing a presidential run in 2012” appears to be Minnesota’s Tim Pawlenty. Pawlenty used his time at yesterday’s roundtable discussion to cast himself as the “modern” Republican while casting aspersions on the traditional conservative message, calling for outreach to the “new demographics,” deriding the GOP for allegedly being 15 years behind in the use of the Internet, and calling for the party not to be led by “a crank.” Pawlenty appears to have John McCain’s penchant for attacking conservatives rather than those in the other party.

Pawlenty in Miami was publicly angry, agitated, and even cranky, possibly because he found himself at odds with the far more conservative tone of every other speaker here. Hundreds of RGA members, who paid thousands of dollars to attend this Conference, wildly applauded “red meat” conservative pronouncements by speakers and not the more moderate and conservative-jabbing words by Pawlenty. And then there’s his “Palin problem,” real or imagined, that hit the fan yesterday in front of the national media, possibly upon the insistence of Pawlenty himself, as the above-reported comments to CNN by an anonymous presidential aspirant indicate.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: gop; pawlenty; rga; rickperry; sarahpalin; timpawlenty
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To: AzSteven

ON FR, we spend more time beating up on our own that on RATS.


81 posted on 11/15/2008 12:51:00 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Well Timmy, no pie for you.


82 posted on 11/15/2008 12:53:55 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Stupid RINOs.


83 posted on 11/15/2008 12:58:36 PM PST by WondrousCreation ((long time lurker))
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Bye-bye, Pawlenty.


84 posted on 11/15/2008 12:58:45 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Caution...

The one thing that bothers me about the story is the obvious bias. There are few real quotes. I’m no Pawlenty fan, but the author’s got a one track mind regarding 2012. I like Palin, but I’d really a little more than the innuendo this guy’s offering before going off half-cocked.


85 posted on 11/15/2008 12:59:07 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (Conservative Podcast: The Truth and Hope (http://www.truthandhope.2truth.com))
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To: Joe Boucher

We will need RINO’s in any general election. We just need them to fold-up their tents and fall under the conservative umbrella of the GOP Leadership.

See post #45.

Palin is a true conservative, though she reached out to the more moderate wing of the electorate to get elected and then governed the moderate legislature in Alaska to get things done. Yet, it was still center-right policy. Palin didn’t just run as a reformer. She has governed as one. Thats my understanding.

To win general elections, we need to find the ‘telegenic’ and ‘charasmatic’candidate that will attract the moderates, conservative democrats and independents beyond the primary elections and into the general election and then govern as conservatives. You can only do this as a true conservative candidate which is why moderates or RINO’s cannot be the GOP leadership moving forward.

My thoughts anyway..


86 posted on 11/15/2008 1:01:32 PM PST by chief_believer
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To: chief_believer

Very astute.


87 posted on 11/15/2008 1:10:54 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

For awhile I thought we need a conservative third party. Then it occurred to me that what we really need to do is push out the creep RINO’s that have diluted our “brand.” When we take care of that problem we’ll start energizing voters and winning elections again.

Of course, it also won’t hurt if we work to put out of business the criminal enterprise known as the Democratic National Committee by making use of the RICO Act. Obama, the Clintons, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer—every one of these sh**bags should be in jail. They’re g**d*** criminals. Nothing less.


88 posted on 11/15/2008 1:14:41 PM PST by libsmacker75
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To: mewzilla
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.

Thomas Paine

As true today as when first written.

89 posted on 11/15/2008 1:21:43 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: chief_believer
As far as Sarah is concerned, she advocates the practical common-sense conservatism of Middle America. The center-right. She is capable of reviving a modern-era Reagan coalition of the entrepreneurial middle-class and blue-collar workers .... who unite traditional economic conservatives (that believe in smaller government and tax relief) with blue-collar workers who hold traditionalist views on culture or morality. I don’t believe Pawlenty can do this.

..Sarah's political philosophy

90 posted on 11/15/2008 1:24:25 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady from the North")
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To: marsh2
This does not mean being a one issue pro-life party.

Gee you want to run Dole again, as I recall he was trounced by a pervert.

91 posted on 11/15/2008 1:36:30 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: armyofprinciples
Might I ask what it is, in your opinion, that makes W a failure?

Not my comment, but Rove's strategery led to the disastrous 2006 loss of both houses.

Bush continues to push Israel into tenuous defensive agreements.

He ignored 70% of the voters in refusing to close the borders.

Just for starters. And I voted for him twice. (Different elections)

92 posted on 11/15/2008 1:46:23 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: TheFourthMagi
Regarding the first part, yes McCain was a failure and that was easily predictable, pointing up the need to avoid candidates like McCain in the future.

That's the old Phyllis Schlafly argument: Willkie was a failure, Dewey was a failure, and Nixon was a failure; therefore Goldwater, "a choice not an echo" would be a success. It doesn't work that way. Nobody could have beaten FDR, and Nixon almost beat JFK. Goldwater failed miserably at the polls.

McCain was this year's Bob Dole. He wasn't a very good candidate, but who could have done better? Fred didn't really want the job and the country didn't want him. Mitt was saddled with a money fund reputation that would have sunk with the stock market. Huckabee couldn't even convince very many freepers to vote for him. Giuliani was a double shot of McCain. As for Ron Paul, the less said the better.

Regarding the second part, obviously the economic implosion hobbled Republican candidates because the explanation of how liberal economic tribalism led to the problems was put forth too tepidly.

True. But people assume that the buck stops with the president. All major national failures are going to be ascribe to the president and the president's party, especially if it controls both Houses of Congress. That's why no Republican could have won this year's presidential election.

93 posted on 11/15/2008 1:48:55 PM PST by x
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To: WilliamReading
I have seen Free Republic in the 2004 election and there was strong support for GWB

There was a lot of resigned support here, and a few Bush zealots. He was much better than the alternative, at least that is what I thought, in retrospect....... And I have been here a while, was a lurker long before I signed up.

94 posted on 11/15/2008 1:51:36 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Thanks but no thanks, timmy.


95 posted on 11/15/2008 1:52:01 PM PST by Faux_Pas ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." ~R.)
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To: TheFourthMagi
On what basis do you put forth such a fantastical assertion?

Maybe your two month old sign in date?

96 posted on 11/15/2008 1:54:00 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Hundreds of RGA members, who paid thousands of dollars to attend this Conference, wildly applauded “red meat” conservative pronouncements by speakers and not the more moderate and conservative-jabbing words by Pawlenty.

Fantastic! There's hope for us small gov't, low tax conservatives yet....you made my weekend.

97 posted on 11/15/2008 1:55:22 PM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: SaxxonWoods
If so-called RINOs are “kicked out” of the party...wait

Not out of the party, just out of leadership. Lincoln fired lots of Generals, before deciding on a drunk.

98 posted on 11/15/2008 1:57:28 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: WilliamReading

Pawlenty and Crist have both sounded like wimps on the talk shows since the election.

Mitch Daniels was just re-elected to his second term as Gov. of Indiana and stated in no uncertain terms that it was his LAST campaign of ANY kind, for ANY office.

He is not a RINO, is extremely smart, and has something that not many Republicans have....a spine! He has done exactly what he said he was going to do, and despite some carping from the press, makes no apologies for it.

He would be a great choice, if only he could be persuaded to run.


99 posted on 11/15/2008 1:58:06 PM PST by Purdue Pete
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
ON FR, we spend more time beating up on our own that on RATS.

The point is they are not our own. They are bought and paid for.

100 posted on 11/15/2008 1:59:07 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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