Posted on 11/15/2008 11:29:10 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
The Republican governor eyeing a presidential run in 2012 appears to be Minnesotas Tim Pawlenty. Pawlenty used his time at yesterdays roundtable discussion to cast himself as the modern Republican while casting aspersions on the traditional conservative message, calling for outreach to the new demographics, deriding the GOP for allegedly being 15 years behind in the use of the Internet, and calling for the party not to be led by a crank. Pawlenty appears to have John McCains penchant for attacking conservatives rather than those in the other party.
Pawlenty in Miami was publicly angry, agitated, and even cranky, possibly because he found himself at odds with the far more conservative tone of every other speaker here. Hundreds of RGA members, who paid thousands of dollars to attend this Conference, wildly applauded red meat conservative pronouncements by speakers and not the more moderate and conservative-jabbing words by Pawlenty. And then theres his Palin problem, real or imagined, that hit the fan yesterday in front of the national media, possibly upon the insistence of Pawlenty himself, as the above-reported comments to CNN by an anonymous presidential aspirant indicate.
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ON FR, we spend more time beating up on our own that on RATS.
Well Timmy, no pie for you.
Stupid RINOs.
Bye-bye, Pawlenty.
Caution...
The one thing that bothers me about the story is the obvious bias. There are few real quotes. I’m no Pawlenty fan, but the author’s got a one track mind regarding 2012. I like Palin, but I’d really a little more than the innuendo this guy’s offering before going off half-cocked.
We will need RINO’s in any general election. We just need them to fold-up their tents and fall under the conservative umbrella of the GOP Leadership.
See post #45.
Palin is a true conservative, though she reached out to the more moderate wing of the electorate to get elected and then governed the moderate legislature in Alaska to get things done. Yet, it was still center-right policy. Palin didnt just run as a reformer. She has governed as one. Thats my understanding.
To win general elections, we need to find the ‘telegenic’ and ‘charasmatic’candidate that will attract the moderates, conservative democrats and independents beyond the primary elections and into the general election and then govern as conservatives. You can only do this as a true conservative candidate which is why moderates or RINO’s cannot be the GOP leadership moving forward.
My thoughts anyway..
Very astute.
For awhile I thought we need a conservative third party. Then it occurred to me that what we really need to do is push out the creep RINO’s that have diluted our “brand.” When we take care of that problem we’ll start energizing voters and winning elections again.
Of course, it also won’t hurt if we work to put out of business the criminal enterprise known as the Democratic National Committee by making use of the RICO Act. Obama, the Clintons, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer—every one of these sh**bags should be in jail. They’re g**d*** criminals. Nothing less.
Thomas Paine
As true today as when first written.
..Sarah's political philosophy
Gee you want to run Dole again, as I recall he was trounced by a pervert.
Not my comment, but Rove's strategery led to the disastrous 2006 loss of both houses.
Bush continues to push Israel into tenuous defensive agreements.
He ignored 70% of the voters in refusing to close the borders.
Just for starters. And I voted for him twice. (Different elections)
That's the old Phyllis Schlafly argument: Willkie was a failure, Dewey was a failure, and Nixon was a failure; therefore Goldwater, "a choice not an echo" would be a success. It doesn't work that way. Nobody could have beaten FDR, and Nixon almost beat JFK. Goldwater failed miserably at the polls.
McCain was this year's Bob Dole. He wasn't a very good candidate, but who could have done better? Fred didn't really want the job and the country didn't want him. Mitt was saddled with a money fund reputation that would have sunk with the stock market. Huckabee couldn't even convince very many freepers to vote for him. Giuliani was a double shot of McCain. As for Ron Paul, the less said the better.
Regarding the second part, obviously the economic implosion hobbled Republican candidates because the explanation of how liberal economic tribalism led to the problems was put forth too tepidly.
True. But people assume that the buck stops with the president. All major national failures are going to be ascribe to the president and the president's party, especially if it controls both Houses of Congress. That's why no Republican could have won this year's presidential election.
There was a lot of resigned support here, and a few Bush zealots. He was much better than the alternative, at least that is what I thought, in retrospect....... And I have been here a while, was a lurker long before I signed up.
Thanks but no thanks, timmy.
Maybe your two month old sign in date?
Fantastic! There's hope for us small gov't, low tax conservatives yet....you made my weekend.
Not out of the party, just out of leadership. Lincoln fired lots of Generals, before deciding on a drunk.
Pawlenty and Crist have both sounded like wimps on the talk shows since the election.
Mitch Daniels was just re-elected to his second term as Gov. of Indiana and stated in no uncertain terms that it was his LAST campaign of ANY kind, for ANY office.
He is not a RINO, is extremely smart, and has something that not many Republicans have....a spine! He has done exactly what he said he was going to do, and despite some carping from the press, makes no apologies for it.
He would be a great choice, if only he could be persuaded to run.
The point is they are not our own. They are bought and paid for.
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