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Citizens Committee: Abolish Trans Texas Corridor Idea
WOAI ^ | November 14, 2008 | Jim Forsyth

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:22:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A citizens committee appointed by the Texas Department of Transportation has issued a series of recommendations on what should be done to deal with increasing congestion on Interstate 35, 1200 WOAI news reports.

The committee said stretches of Interstate 35, which runs from Laredo to Gainesville and is the most heavily traveled Interstate highway in the country, have 'pushed the limit of the road's design capacity.'

Gabby Garcia of TxDOT says the committee reacted strongly against Governor Perry's 'Trans Texas Corridor' toll road plan, saying the TTC 'has come to represent what Texans do not want in transportation project delivery. The TTC lacks public and political support.'

The committee recommended that even the name 'Trans Texas Corridor' be abolished.

The main focus of the committee was to determine how to deal with increasing levels of congestion on 35.

"Looking at expansion where it is appropriate, and using existing right of way where possible," Garcia said.

But beyond that, the committee recommended studying passenger rail along the I-35 corridor, HOV lanes, and even additional toll lanes where necessary, but Garcia said the committee said TxDOT needs to do more to make sure local communities support radical departures like toll roads.

"It has to include the local community, to make sure they are part of the process."

The committee repeatedly took TxDOT to task for not gaining public support when suggesting new toll lanes, or major new toll roads like the TTC.

The committee said any funding allocated to I-35 should stay on I-35 and not be siphoned off to other projects for political purposes. It said more consideration should be given to aesthetics as the highway enters a community.

Due to the existence of frontage roads, with businesses built right on the highway, many motorists say Texas' Interstate highways are the ugliest in the country. In other states, traffic is routed onto side streets and businesses are located there, allowing for landscaping along the expressway.

The committee also recommended the construction of new bridges into Mexico on the south end of I-35 in Laredo, and improved freight rail between Austin and San Antonio.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: committee; gabrielagarcia; i35; ih35; infrastructure; interstate35; rickperry; texas; transportation; transtexascorridor; ttc; ttc35; tx; txdot
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1 posted on 11/14/2008 7:22:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; af_vet_rr; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; ...

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 11/14/2008 7:23:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxiG56M-eU)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The committee said stretches of Interstate 35, which runs from Laredo to Gainesville and is the most heavily traveled Interstate highway in the country, have 'pushed the limit of the road's design capacity.'

Really?

3 posted on 11/14/2008 7:28:42 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
even additional toll lanes where necessary

Perry and TDOT still taking the Saudis money I see.

4 posted on 11/14/2008 7:36:25 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If they did away with the frontage roads, they would have plenty of space to improve the highway.


5 posted on 11/14/2008 7:37:58 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I-35 sucks.

High speed rail would be a good idea, as long as it doesn't turn into some government boondogle.

6 posted on 11/14/2008 7:41:02 PM PST by smokingfrog (If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: org.whodat

Even if they dumped the frontage roads (which I don’t think is a great idea), I don’t know that they would have enough space. 35 really should be a superslab, 4-6 lanes each way, all the way from Dallas on South. You’re looking at a lot of bridges from Dallas to Waco alone...


7 posted on 11/14/2008 7:42:39 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: smokingfrog

Yeah, we really do need high speed rail in Texas linking the major cities. God alone knows how many times I’ve had to drive to Waco or Austin at the last minute to fix something for a client.


8 posted on 11/14/2008 7:44:01 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“The committee also recommended the construction of new bridges into Mexico on the south end of I-35 in Laredo.”

What about “OUT of Mexico. Are these bridges two way bridges?


9 posted on 11/14/2008 7:50:56 PM PST by acoulterfan
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To: Spktyr
One side would do, and yes I have driven on I35 from San Antonio to ok. City more than once.
10 posted on 11/14/2008 8:29:14 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts! Republicans do!)
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To: Spktyr
Actually, I think we should start building giant-sized trains. Giant trains could then be used to move large amounts of freight at low cost, removing many trucks from the highways (and/or trucks themselves transported by train).
Check this out - Modern Mechanix 1947
11 posted on 11/14/2008 8:39:43 PM PST by smokingfrog (If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I 35 through Austin is a death trap any time of the day. Was in an accident on that road. Too many big trucks and cars on that double decker road; bumper to bumper trucks/cars all going fast. There has to be a by-pass around Austin for I 35 through Austin cannot be expanded.


12 posted on 11/14/2008 8:41:51 PM PST by Marcella (One Democrat lost, one Democrat won.)
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TTC - the best & fastest way to move jobs to mexico so we can move the freight faster north

also, the greatest gov land grab from private citizens in USA history


13 posted on 11/14/2008 9:43:13 PM PST by She hits a grand slam tonight
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


14 posted on 11/15/2008 3:03:16 AM PST by E.G.C. (Click on a freeper's screename and then "In Forum" to read his/her posts)
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To: Spktyr
When I moved to Texas in 1984 they were working on I 35 in Hillsboro. They are still working on it.
15 posted on 11/15/2008 6:28:04 AM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: Marcella

http://www.centraltexasturnpike.org/pdf/CTTPSystemMapUpdate_043008.pdf


16 posted on 11/15/2008 8:31:37 AM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Spktyr
Yeah, we really do need high speed rail in Texas linking the major cities. God alone knows how many times I’ve had to drive to Waco or Austin at the last minute to fix something for a client.

Sure you do. Is the rail going to take you from your front door to the client's front door or do you need to rent a car, take a cab or bus from the rail station. Just wondering.

The reason we don't have rail is because of the way our cities are built and how the distances travelled have become greater between the center of the cities and the suburbs. That is unless you'd like to live in downtown Dallas/Houston etc... Then we can look forward to the life of the Big Apple. Packed in like sardines and crammed one on top of the other.

I'll take a pass.

17 posted on 11/15/2008 10:10:12 AM PST by erman
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To: Spktyr

The commute from Killeen to Waco really sucks.


18 posted on 11/15/2008 10:12:54 AM PST by jude24
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To: erman

A simple solution to your objection would be to run the rail lines to the major airports, where one can do something radical like “rent a car”.

Or do you also feel that people should not fly?


19 posted on 11/15/2008 10:13:16 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: erman
rail going to take you from your front door to the client's front door or do you need to rent a car, take a cab or bus from the rail station.

Actually, I imagine that solutions would present themselves. If high speed rail existed, car rental companies and car services would probably love to set up shop outside the terminals.

20 posted on 11/15/2008 10:17:02 AM PST by jude24
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