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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: pa mom

“Actually, I am reading as much as I can and weighing the evidence. I am considering both sides and do not find that the proof supports a conspiracy to coverup Obama’s foreign birth. How many supporters of this belief will give consideration to the opposing point of view?”

You take all the time you need. When you’re ready, give one rational reason Obama wouldn’t just allow the certificate in question to be viewed by anyone who wants to see it.


821 posted on 11/15/2008 4:48:53 PM PST by bluescape (The American media, The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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To: FourtySeven
I don't know what the "larger picture" could be other than perhaps showing that Obama didn't/doesn't know who his real parents are.

And with the above, you've hinted at the answer to your own question.

Why would the untold hours & money have been spent, at the risk of tarnishing the $1T bullsh!t messiah image, merely to avoid the release of that particular bit of information, the nature of which is practically passè in today's societal climate, after the election's already been stolen ?

Especially given the monumental arrogance of the piece of sh!t, his narcissistic pathology would certainly assure him that his moronic followers would doubtless overlook such an 'insignificant' detail.

822 posted on 11/15/2008 4:50:26 PM PST by tomkat ( . . preparing to shrug . .)
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To: PA-RIVER
I think your on to something. If Hussein is sworn in ... a class action suit by milllions of taxpayers might be in order. First, sue every official who can not testify that they saw a COB and then certified the election anyway. That action alone constitutes fraud.

I think it is called a REVOLUTION. It is probably gonna happen if this goes down the way it appears it will. The will of the people will not be heard.
823 posted on 11/15/2008 4:51:27 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Old Sarge

Precisely!!!

Nail on the head Sarge!

Besides, if they do present a birth certificate...I seriously doubt its validity or authenticity...

And even if there is proof that Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President...It won’t matter...No one will tell him so...

Can you imagine the pandemonium??? The chaos, the riots...

I’ll pop the popcorn, you bring the drinks...


824 posted on 11/15/2008 4:51:41 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: danamco

The constitution is strong. One (more)lying president won’t weaken it, if this is true.

If this has legs, if it is true, it will come out. I am the eternal optimist. Contrarily, I have enough faith in the inherent selfishness of humans that I am sure someone will sell out their ideology for ratings and fame if this has factual basis.

And, because I don’t believe that big conspiracies can hold together forever, the truth will come out when someone breaks, gets drunk and spills it, or confesses on a deathbed. Might be too late, tis true.


825 posted on 11/15/2008 4:51:42 PM PST by pa mom
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To: Boardwalk

Thank you, thank you, thank you for pointing out that he’s going back to Hawaii in Dec. No-one else seemed to have noticed that. Reason for trip is to “honor” Granny.


826 posted on 11/15/2008 4:52:20 PM PST by bergmeid
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To: bluescape

From what I have read, the long form is not released by the state. The O camp released what is normally sufficient to prove birth, even for passports, etc.


827 posted on 11/15/2008 4:53:20 PM PST by pa mom
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To: danamco
The usual vetting process was voided because of the risk being called racist

I think you're probably right, which would mean that political correctness has given us a foreign radical as a president.

What will it take to wake the masses?

MM (in TX)

828 posted on 11/15/2008 4:53:44 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: pa mom

You and James77 make good points: I’ve been watching this thread since last night.

All I can think of, is if Alan Keys has gotten involved, they must be aiming at something substantive.

Otherwise, you two have brought up sound answers.


829 posted on 11/15/2008 4:55:47 PM PST by RGPII (Stand your ground!)
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To: bluescape

See number 824

“And even if there is proof that Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President...It won’t matter...”


830 posted on 11/15/2008 4:56:22 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom
But he will be my president and I wish him well.

I can't buy that by face value, (like you are questioning our views) BEFORE he has cleared the hurdle of ALL his records becomes public to show his true eligibility to be MY "president", lower case. My Constitution comes before my "president", and party affiliation!!!

831 posted on 11/15/2008 4:56:42 PM PST by danamco
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To: pa mom

A. I don’t have time to research your comments on this thread and verify that you said the dread words “tinfoil”. If you didn’t, I apologize.

B. There would be no need to hide a Kenyan birth (or whatever else he’s hiding) for 47 years. Much of that time no one else would have cared; and since all his records are now sealed and scrubbed and all non-Kenyan relatives deceased, he is obviously hiding a lot of shit and no one is the wiser other than whoever HE allows to know. And considering the thugville that is Chicago, and the liberal hellholes that the universities he went to are, it’s no surprise that there have been no whistle blowers on him (yet).


832 posted on 11/15/2008 4:56:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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833 posted on 11/15/2008 4:57:06 PM PST by Aurorales
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To: jamese777
End of story.

Let's assume that this computer printed certification was printed from true data and that the data has not been tampered with. Then WHY is obama fighting so hard to prevent the release of the long form? Apparently there is more to the story. Therefore, NOT end of story.

834 posted on 11/15/2008 4:58:03 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: RGPII

I wonder if Keyes is a bit angry at his terrible loss in the Senate race. He really was put in a an awful position to fill in at the last moment. That would cause some bitterness. He is human, after all, and subject to the same failings as all of us.


835 posted on 11/15/2008 4:58:32 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

It may have been understood as imperative at the time by either the Mom or Grandparents so as to making him a CITIZEN.


836 posted on 11/15/2008 4:59:39 PM PST by bvw
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To: magooey

Additionally, we have concerns about his secretiveness regarding all aspects of his past, including his Columbia records, writings, client lists, etc. All things he’s demanding from the people desiring a job in his administration. Why not ask Obama to respond to his own application prior to taking the highest office in the land?

There is no logical reason for him to lack a willingness to be transparent with the American people regarding his own past life and simultaneously to expect so much from those who plan to work for him; except the arrogance of one who believes himself entitled to a position by virtue of his own superiority over everyone else—or, in other words, the ideal markings of a tyrannical, despotic, fascist dictator for whom laws have no application.


837 posted on 11/15/2008 4:59:51 PM PST by erkyl (The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in a period of moral crisis, stay neutral)
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To: danamco

He is going to be inaugurated on January 20, and that makes him my president. I will follow this situation, of course, to see if things take a different path. But I won’t let bitterness and disappointment take over. I did that the week after the election! *grin*


838 posted on 11/15/2008 5:00:02 PM PST by pa mom
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To: bvw

But why would it have been so critical in 1961 to make him a NATURAL BORN citizen? With an American mother, it wouldn’t have been very hard to have him naturalized. Natural born only takes on significance with his presidential nomination.


839 posted on 11/15/2008 5:01:17 PM PST by pa mom
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To: little jeremiah

I actually know some normal people who went to Columbia and Harvard. Not everyone there would subvert their soul to Obama if they knew something.

The universities are liberal, to be sure, but I don’t know if they really warrent h***hole! *grin*


840 posted on 11/15/2008 5:03:14 PM PST by pa mom
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