Posted on 11/14/2008 3:45:46 PM PST by Stoat
Critics have accused the Government of failing to prepare cash-strapped councils for the influx of immigrants by giving them the resources to invest in public services.
This has left schools, health facilities and transport struggling to cope with greater numbers.
The resurgence of the BNP will also spark fears among the main political parties that the radical group could prosper at future by-elections in the run-up to the next General Election.
In a result which revived huge concerns, the far-right party won its first district council seat in Lincolnshire in the Fenside ward of Boston.
BNP candidate David Owens polled 279 votes - a 138-majority over the ruling Boston Bypass Independent candidate Carl Smith. The Conservatives came third.
In his victory speech, Mr Owens said local media organisations had tried to 'hoodwink' the public into thinking the 'BNP was a racist party'.
He said: 'We are not a racist party - we are passionate about our country. I think the people of Fenside and the people of Boston have said tonight that immigration is at capacity here.'
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The same is true of “gay christians” and Christian socialist liberation theology types here in the West.
It certainly isn't “genocide” if they are all Indians...
That is multi-cultural bullshiite doublespeak.
So Indian Christians are all Maoist subversives (even the children) who deserve to be butchered by rampaging BJP-inspired Hindu mobs. I wonder what all the God-Fearing bible-bashing members here on FR think of that fascinating theory of yours?
While I would say this highlights a long overdue move to the right in UK politics, I caution that it’s dangerous to celebrate a BNP victory here. These are votes that should have gone to the Conservatives, who are by the way a totally different entity to the BNP, and shouldn’t be confused as one and the same.
While I am a Conservative, I am certainly not fascist, so this is bad news wrapped in a silver lining. The BNP is a racist group of hate mongers, who have no clue how they would run a local council, let alone the country.
If you’re serious about politics and the UK then you wont waste your vote on these disgusting leeches.
Vote for the Conservative Party.
...Another recent BNP win....they thrashed Labour in June of this year:...
You are either mistaking the BNP for the Conservative party (which is most certainly isn’t) or confused a third or fourth place finish in a local by election with victory. The victors in actual fact were the Conservative Party.
One shouldn’t confuse Conservatism in the UK with the fascist agenda of the BNP. Just as Hitler and Franco were fascists, not Conservatives. There is a chasm of difference.
I have spent much time on the on going debate on whether a certain gentleman should show his long form birth certificate.
Pardon my working class humour here. It appears that the word "fascist" is used as a smear. Now if persons were confronted with a real fascist and they got in his face, they might find this. Suddenly they look up, after being knocked down. Next an Orwellian boot is coming in to stamp on their face.
I chuckle when I hear about the Battle of Cable Street. So called, when Mosley's lot tried to march to an appointed place. Almost every one who is near the British press, will tell of an uncle or a dad- "oo' showed 'em what for". Yes, a lot of uncles and dads stood up to the Blackshirts.
A lot of people never saw a real fascist- neither did I. Probably heard some of 'em overhead though, or what they sent over from Europe.
"I don't like the sound of 'ese 'ere 'boncentration bamps.'"
I shouldn’t have expressed it as a ‘win’ for the BNP in that instance, my error. They still gave Labour a good thrashing, however, and considering that their performance was wholly unexpected my enthusiasm was to blame for the error.
As to them being ‘fascists’, I am well accustomed to us Republicans here in the USA being called ‘fascists’ and worse by the media and the hard Left (one and the same these days) and so I’m afraid that such descriptors ceased to faze me long ago. Anyone who shows passionate patriotism runs the risk of being thusly described, as evidenced by the shrill hysteria unleashed upon the Minutemen; a group of jovial grandfatherly types sitting on chaise lounges with binoculars and cellphones watching the border...these are ‘racists’ and ‘fascists’ according to the media and the Left. One of my happiest moments here at Free Republic occurred a couple of years ago when someone who was openly and belligerently supporting and singing the praises of the IRA called me a ‘fascist’ for daring to suggest that the FBI might be interested in someone who is openly voicing such passionate support for a terrorist organization in a public forum.
If that’s how the word ‘fascist’ has been redefined these days then count me in, but as far as more traditionally-accepted definitions are concerned do rest assured that I’ll drop my support for the BNP instantly if I ever hear of them actually promoting, in their current platorm, a true fascist agenda, and I’ll wager that everyone else in the UK will as well. In the meantime my hope is that their successes will spur other political parties to become more serious about addressing key issues such as immigration more effectively than they have been. If the Conservatives and other parties were to do so then the BNP would have no reason for existing.
Agreed. Here in the USA and elsewhere it's become a bumper-sticker sledgehammer phrase that the Left uses to silence people who are passionately patriotic.....much like 'racist' is used against people who question whether every aspect of Government, society and life in general should be focused entirely and exclusively upon artificially boosting the lot of minorities while simultaneously punishing white people as much as possible.
You obviously want to confuse the issue of Britons who stand up for their country... It is like confusing the Democrat/Republican tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum with "conservatism" (whatever the hell that means anymore) in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2-Wun2dIg - Welcome to Saudi Britain
Now you tell me what your limp posturing Conservatives in England or your traitors in Labour have done to stop this... Tell me what the Democrats and Republicans have done about illegals in the USA or voter fraud...
Germans who voted for Hitler, thought they were standing up for their country, and Hitler's message was effective, but Hitler was just exploiting those feelings to gain power, and that's what most so-called "Nationalist Parties" do, for them it's just a means to an end to gain absolute power.
It is like confusing the Democrat/Republican tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum with "conservatism" (whatever the hell that means anymore) in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2-Wun2dIg - Welcome to Saudi Britain
The limp posturing Conservatives in England or the traitors in Labour have done nothing to stop this... Democrats and Republicans have done nothing about illegals in the USA or voter fraud...
Last I looked, England is not Germany...
The open borders crowd in Britain and the USA are useless to me, they are both two sides of the same old coin. And if you look in India, they are getting pretty upset about it as well.
Of course, the criticism of racism falls flat on its face concerning those darker people in India, especially when it is coming from these so-called white "Christians" in the West.
Thanks for your reply. One must be very careful in this subject, for although they gave Labour a pounding, I cannot support their views or political stance. Honestly, and I don’t use this word lightly, they are a true danger to the country, and are fascists in every sense of the word.
I’m not one to use a term with reckless abandon, so trust me on this, they are evil and rotten to the core. Conservatism isn’t simply about opposing Labour no matter the cost, because then you don’t end up standing for anything except anti-politics. Some people are just stupid enough to buy into the BNP rhetoric, because they are angry and frustrated.
The second the BNP come to any kind of power in the UK I will leave these shores and never, ever, go back, for that will be the death of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It would be the coming of the next Reich.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2-Wun2dIg -Welcome to Saudi Britain
Oh, yes, the arrogant liberal elites in Britain will shelter themselves from their own limp posturing on the coming Islamic Reich.
You obviously want to confuse the issue of Britons who stand up for their country... It is the Democrat/Republican tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum on illegal immigration confusing “conservatism” (whatever the hell that means anymore) with Fascism or National Socialism in the USA when we think our borders should be secured during a war.
Run all the way to the Cliffs of Dover, maybe the Muslims will follow you...
You cant call everything left of the BNP ‘liberals’, there is far more to it than that.
You can stand up for your country without resorting to Nazi-style politics.
Are you an American, or British. Your answer means you either have no place making this argument, or you’re one of the rascist, fascist, Nazi scum that represent the BNP in the deprived White areas of the country.
also, if you’re part of the evil excuse for a political party, go somewhere else please. As far as I have gathered, Free Republic is about Convservatism, not fascism.
Tell me exactly what is "Nazi-style." (National Socialism was defeated.)
Sharia courts in Britain?
Are you an American, or British.
Is that a question?
I am English, not British and I am a citizen of the United States.
if youre part of the evil excuse for a political party, go somewhere else please.
Who crowned you queen?
Well, yeah ... but that's just the problem, isn't it? The immigration debate is currently controlled by those on both sides who yell the loudest. There's no room for rational thought, much less rational action.
...I am English, not British and I am a citizen of the United States...
So you’re an American.
You’re not best placed to judge what is and what isn’t best for the country then are you?
Being English myself, if you want to get pedantic, I know what is best for the country, and it sure isn’t the BNP.
How in good grace can you claim to know whats best for my country and yet you aren’t even part of it?
Enough, I can see you have ZERO validity, so lets end this here and now.
Later!
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