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The Five Stages of Collapse
Energy Bulletin ^ | November 11, 2008 | Dmitry Orlov

Posted on 11/14/2008 12:05:38 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

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To: aWolverine

Good comment by Wolverine.

It is interesting that we began the 21st century with the Y2K alarm. It was a false alarm, but at least it brought into focus the circumstances that would surround a real crisis. We should all get into survival mode.


61 posted on 11/14/2008 2:20:14 PM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: Savagemom

One thing that the author did not discuss is the formation of a new currency, or NUSD’s. A debt holiday for all and a reset to the economy like occured in Brazil. There are solutions, but they all involve the end of US Hegemony, which is not a pretty thing to think about. The only thing that has prevented the world from entering a new dark ages for the past 100 years is the US, like it or not. Without us around anymore, who’s going to lead, China. The frightening aspect of that notion may be enough to get the world to cut us some slack.

While I agree with the author’s premise, I call it, “The Great Unraveling,” and I agree that it is likely, it is not a certainty. Comparing US to Russia is not accurate. Also, we have lots of guns and gold. So time will tell. I personally have stocked up on “junk” silver, old pre 1964 coins that still have intrinsic value. I have fantasized many times going into a grocery store and paying for a loaf of bread with a silver dime.


62 posted on 11/14/2008 2:21:42 PM PST by appeal2 (Brilliance is typically the act of an individual, but great stupidity is reserved for the Gov't)
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To: pgkdan
Why? 70% of the Americans have no idea how to defend themselves or survive under extreme conditions.Sad reality.
63 posted on 11/14/2008 2:39:40 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: aWolverine

I agree, we seem to be going from the bottom up.


64 posted on 11/14/2008 3:21:48 PM PST by BBell
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To: neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Remarks against Obama probed
Durham County News Observer | 13 November 2998 | Stanley B. Chambers Jr
Posted on 11/14/2008 8:37:49 AM PST by silverleaf
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-bailout #1-

The Bretton Woods, officially known as
the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference
state.gov | 11/13/08 | state.gov
Posted on 11/14/2008 11:33:29 AM PST by thetru
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Turn 10M into 3 Billion Thanks to TARP (Scams have started)
CBS MarketWatch | 11/14/2008 | Alistair Barr
Posted on 11/14/2008 3:10:03 PM PST by demoskowitz
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-2nd Amendment topics-

Suck it up! Get on the offensive.
GunTalk website | 11/13/08 | Tom Gresham
Posted on 11/13/2008 4:46:41 PM PST by Neil E. Wright
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2131733/posts

When Seconds Count
WCPO channel 9
Posted on 11/14/2008 2:23:54 AM PST by hoosierham
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65 posted on 11/14/2008 3:22:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: appeal2
The country just voted for martial law. Bambi’s Brown Shirts will help keep “order.”

52% did. The 46%-47% that didn't has probably 85% of the guns in civilian hands (at least the long guns, and most particularly the battle rifles and carbines). The new SA will find themselves in some "interesting" situations if they go too far.

66 posted on 11/14/2008 4:01:41 PM PST by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: Ancesthntr
52% did. The 46%-47% that didn't has probably 85% of the guns in civilian hands (at least the long guns, and most particularly the battle rifles and carbines). The new SA will find themselves in some "interesting" situations if they go too far.

It was more like 51% supposedly did and 50% most decidedly did NOT (that's not a typo, I recon about 3 Million votes, conservatively, are fraudulent).

Anyway, you are correct about the gun ratios. Whoever the unfortunate traitors are who try to start collecting squirrel rifles by force are going to be going face down into a table saw. Sometimes, being evil hurts.
67 posted on 11/14/2008 4:06:29 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: nevergore

Yeah, but back then we had morals.


68 posted on 11/14/2008 4:30:11 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: lookout88

I understand your statement as I have said the same thing. However, I was reminded that in the very first family on earth the oldest son murdered the younger — 25% homicide rate. From the beginning of time there has been rampant debauchery.


69 posted on 11/14/2008 4:42:52 PM PST by Kay
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To: Kay

From the beginning of time there has been rampant debauchery.”

That’s going to look like a picnic compared to what is to come


70 posted on 11/14/2008 4:55:17 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: lookout88
From the beginning of time there has been rampant debauchery.”

That’s going to look like a picnic compared to what is to come


Too true. We're going to look back in fond nostalgia at today's debauchery.
71 posted on 11/14/2008 4:57:53 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: aWolverine

Yeah, it is going to be funny to watch the obama voters long for the days of George Bush.


72 posted on 11/14/2008 5:00:32 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: lookout88
Yeah, it is going to be funny to watch the obama voters long for the days of George Bush.

From behind razor wire, no less.

73 posted on 11/14/2008 5:07:11 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: Ancesthntr
the average citizen or neighborhood in most parts of the country can take care of themselves. The less law-abiding will get weeded out pretty quickly

It appears you may not have spent any time in our inner cities lately. Whole neighborhoods where residents cannot leave their homes after dark, and no one, not cops, not government, not citizens, nobody, lifts a finger to restore order.

74 posted on 11/14/2008 5:13:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: boxer21
No one knows what is happening and no one knows what will happen

Joe Biden knows.

75 posted on 11/14/2008 6:20:31 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

>No one knows what is happening and no one knows what will happen

Yah, I know, he watched FDR explain it on TV back in ‘29


76 posted on 11/14/2008 6:52:25 PM PST by boxer21
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To: Savagemom

Great post, but have to ask about this line: “We don’t have a gun - yet.”

Unless you doubt your ability to use one if needed, I strongly suggest you get one soon. Like this weekend. An inexpensive Mossberg pump action 12 ga. can be had for less than $200 and is a good first choice home defense/hunting weapon.


77 posted on 11/14/2008 7:04:57 PM PST by piytar
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To: aWolverine

“Cancel all welfare and SS payments week 1. Empty the local grocery store shelves week 2. By week 3, your city will be burning and the cross sub-cultural violence will have killed thousands.”

Bingo.


78 posted on 11/14/2008 7:57:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

This is why the 2nd is so important. It’s a last ditch guarantee.


79 posted on 11/14/2008 7:58:15 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: piytar

We’re thinking about the gun - hubby is not so keen on the idea with the kids in the house. Our Cub Scouts have more firearm experience than we do - our 10 year old is an excellent shot! It would also be nice to be able to hunt if we needed to - I’m trying to convince him.

I stocked up for Y2K also, and took a bit of ribbing for that!


80 posted on 11/15/2008 5:40:20 AM PST by Savagemom (Educational Maverick (at least while homeschooling is still legal))
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