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To: brushcop

Only african americans are monolithic in their support. Asians and Hispanics are not. Do not group us all together.

Selling an easy amnesty with no border enforcement was a big mistake, but lets not mince words. Republicans need to get the hispanic vote on their side. Part of the way to do this is to control the immigration from hispanic countries so that it is upscale and make sure they become part of the middle class.

The key though is to heavily recruit hispanic candidates for office. Any immigration bill passed by republicans that is tough needs to have a legitimate hispanic political leader as its spokesperson who can honestly say that the bill is a plan to help protect our borders without undermining the legal immigration process that has been working in America for many years.

At any rate, if you want to be a part of the minority party, go ahead and go nativist and group all hispanics together. See how far that gets the GOP or conservative political values.


35 posted on 11/14/2008 7:17:01 AM PST by DiogenesLaertius
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To: DiogenesLaertius

No, I was raised with you folks (if you’re Hispanic) in S. Texas speaking spanish, still do and translate for arraignments in our county court in central Texas. Neither can you class me in this regard.

Nothing is 100% but the Hispanic vote is clearly in the pocket of the Slavery party, always has been. Just as it is not “monolithic” but darn near, neather are my friends just of one “race” either. And we have been frustrated over this for decades.

There are exceptions but I’ll tell you this: “reaching out” (pandering) does not work. A person must either believe (or at least consider the truth of the platform) in the once-viable platform of the GOP or not. I talk until I’m blue in the face with Hispanic friends over these things, I find it mind-boggling that as I have changed positions when proven wrong in certain area, as a group they stubbornly hang tight to the lies of the Left. Elections have proven me right and I go way back to my Texas border upbringing with this experience and perspective. Look at the election county map as backup.

The old DNC was not so antagonistic in those days (60s, except La Raza and other militant subgroups) unlike today’s DNC and we lived under many, many local and state Dem office holders from Mayors, Chiefs of Police, Sheriffs, Representatives, the list goes on and on, and we did okay and remained FRIENDS. I really don’t think there’s any “coming together” of the two now unless you are willing to appease oneself out of existence which has just about happened with the RINOs among us, sure worked great didn’t it!


54 posted on 11/14/2008 7:31:33 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

Absolutely the GOP needs Latinos, and not blacks.

Blacks are 10% of the population and falling.

Latinos are the future! They are the only ones in the USA having babies. (I’m in CA so I know.)


78 posted on 11/14/2008 9:11:42 AM PST by olivia3boys
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