Posted on 11/14/2008 5:36:26 AM PST by shortstop
Frankly, I dont give a damn about the Republican Party.
When a pair of shoes is worn out, I throw them away. If I can resole them, I do. If I cant, they go in the trash. I dont look back, I dont mourn them, I just dump them.
Same for my political party.
If it helps me serve my country, fine. If it doesnt, to hell with it.
Its as simple as that.
And as the Republican Party lies in tatters on the ground, blown to smithereens by a philosophical suicide, it is no surprise that those who claim the right to put the pieces back together again are the very ones who pulled the trigger in the first place.
The Republican Party is dead because its body finally caught up to its soul.
The Republican Party got cancer and died. Its once-healthy heart was infiltrated and overwhelmed by the greed and lust for power of soulless people in positions of great authority. As it made compounding compromises with virtue it went from prom queen to town slut in record time.
It got lost in the woods of principle because it purposefully smashed its compass on a rock.
And the various plans for reconstructing the Republican Party seem written by the same pimps and pirates who destroyed it. The people who made the Republican Party stayed home on Election Day and the infiltrators who put it on the garbage heap claim now to be its caretakers and stewards.
And the Frankenstein of a party they want to cobble back together is nothing more than an impotent junior-Democrat party, not quite as socialist and not quite as oppressive and not quite as anti-American but ultimately altogether as destructive of personal liberty and national character. They want a difference of degree, not of principle. They want to fight over the crumbs of power that fall from the jaws of an all-controlling government.
So to hell with them.
Either the Republican Party comes back closer to its roots, or it comes back without my vote or the votes of tens of millions of Americans just like me.
Americans who believe in individual liberty and self-reliance. Whove actually read the Constitution and know why this country was founded and how it was made great. Americans who are ashamed of the welfare line and resentful of Mr. Obamas redistributive taxes. Americans whove sent generations of sons to defend this country and who today carry the burden of financially supporting it.
Americans who know that the government isnt their mommy or their daddy and that freedom is more important than life, and immeasurably more important than a tax-rebate check or government health care.
The Republican Party can either stand for smaller government, lower taxes and freer people, or it can rot in hell.
The liberals on TV and the liberals in the Republican Party can laugh at that all they want. They can look down their noses at the rest of us all they wish, and theyll keep getting more of what they got on Election Day. Real Republicans didnt lose this election they didnt play this election. They stayed home, or they held their noses and voted for a man they admired but didnt agree with.
Real Republicans gave their money and showed their support during the primary. By the time the general election came around, there was too much piss in the milkshake for them to have much of an appetite.
And to fix that the smart people want to unzip their pants and top it off.
Like I said, I dont give a damn about the Republican Party. My family has been Republican since the election of 1860. We go back to Lincoln. But its never been about partisanship, its always been about patriotism. Ive been a Republican because the Republican Party was good for America, because the Republican Party was a means to an end a tool to defend the principles of American liberty.
And the Republican Party can either get back to that, or it can lie mummified in the pages of the history books.
It can continue its process of morphing into the me-too party, the perpetual lesser of two evils, or it can return to its roots roots that are unashamedly conservative, that are unashamedly American, that are deep in the individualism and exceptionalism and liberty that made this country.
Or, like I said, it can go to hell.
Ive scraped worse stuff off my shoes before, I wont shed any tears over the death of this party. The day it sold out my values and my country on everything from the deficit to illegal immigration to free pills for grama it lost me. We gave the Republican Party the presidency and both houses of Congress, and it gave us the finger.
And now it wants a double dose of the poison that killed it. It wants to reconstruct itself as the antithesis of what it used to be. It wants to reject conservatives and conservatism. So let it. If the Republican bosses want to join the Democrats in making toilet paper of the Constitution, let them.
We dont need them, but sometime and somewhere theyre going to need us.
And thats when well give them the finger.
Like we did last Tuesday.
Please. Stop and think. Where are you going to get the people to achieve a number sufficient to win an election? They’re going to have to come from the Republican party. It’s the same people with a different name. Why don’t we just change the name of the Republican party and make everyone feel happy.
Exactly! [It's nice to know someone else recognizes that our government is already socialist, too]
How about the Conservative Americans For America party?
CAFA for short.
And with your line of thinking, you must have helped design new Coke
I agree with you but I'm also going to scold you. Aren't you a Methodist minister? Methodists are also for the exteminating of innocent life. How do you reconcile that?
You are willing to throw the Republican party overboard and yet you stand by the Methodist "church" which is far worse.
I demand more from my church than my political party.
This is the kind of language . . . “reach out” . . . which actually means compromise on more and more principle, that accentuates the author's statement about the Republican Party being a Junior Democratic Party -— headed the same direction!
Where are the Republican strategists who can TEACH what Republicanism is; what a REPUBLIC is?!
The only way of “reaching out” is to go in to those communities and find ways to teach people how that they will very soon lose under socialism.
Republicans need to send people out with missionary zeal to instruct people what is really happening.
BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT!!
It is the Republican Party itself that has presented the reason for Republicans to seek third parties.
I agree wholeheartedly that the Republican Party has been begging for our support without any intent to stand by us.
I believe that a two-party system is the most stable, and the bent toward a parliamentary view of electing presidents will only make us another Britain or Europe — or India, or Pakistan . . . or worse!
But my question (which I have asked in many posts) is:
WHY DOES IT FOREVER HAVE TO BE THE SAME TWO PARTIES?!!
Why not replace the Republican Party with a Constitutional, truly American party?
There are several, more Constitutional, third parties which deserve our attention.
One or more of the Constitutional third parties have been against the MANNER in which we have prosecuted the War on Terror. They have taken grief from Republicans, including many on these pages.
It is not because they are pacifist, or anti-war, or anti-military, or weak on defense, but simply because they believe that our defense against our enemies, as well as every other aspect of governing ans securing, should be in adherence to the United States Constitution.
Many, perhaps thousands of pro-military, go-after-our-enemies Constitutionalists could give the right answers for the prosecution of a war of this type on the afternoon of September 11, 2001. They are not weak men. They could have gotten the job done with soldiers and rifles and bombs long before this at much less cost in money and lives.
We do need to replace this Grumpy Obsolete Party, and the sooner the better.
My sense is that the Constitution Party is very, very close to what I'm looking for.
Anti-restriction, individualist conservatives would tend toward the Libertarian Party. They're too highbrow and pro-choice for me. I can't support anything that's pro-choice. It violates my commitment to God.
Huh? Hope for what? More socialism and big gubmint?
Surely, you can see the extreme threat that is in Obama, Pelosi and Reid.
And we have the Rebuplican Party to blame for that.
Why give up gained territory?
Gained territory? Did you just wake up, Rip?
And don't forget the liberal "churches" which may be the worst of all of them. If we can't trust our churches, who can we trust?
Here are the list of "churches" that belong to the socialistic, anti-Christ, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual group.
Then we have bitchers and complainers here on FR about the Republican party and how many of them continue to fund this travesty.
They expect perfection from their political party but accept every kind of perversion from their church.:
African Methodist Episcopal Church
The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
Alliance of Baptists
American Baptist Churches in the USA
Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
Church of the Brethren
The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
The Episcopal Church
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Friends United Meeting
Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
Hungarian Reformed Church in America
International Council of Community Churches
Korean Presbyterian Church in America
Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
Mar Thoma Church
Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
National Baptist Convention of America
National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
Orthodox Church in America
Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
Polish National Catholic Church of America
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
Reformed Church in America
Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
The Swedenborgian Church
Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
United Church of Christ
The United Methodist Church
It's a good example though. Why is it we get a conservative into a position of power and then they sell us out?
I think it's because we don't control the purse strings. They get to DC and quickly discover that to get reelected they need to fall in line in order to get money to run a campaign. If we fund a PAC that only supports conservatives and do not give money to the GOP we can control the purse strings. Also, if this is effective the power to endorse or remove endorsement further erodes the DC power elites.
That's the first time I've ever read the principles of the Constitution Party. Very interesting and very compelling. Thank you for posting that.
Human nature is human nature. It will always be that way. Get elected to office and see what happens.
“Why dont we just change the name of the Republican party and make everyone feel happy.”
It might be a lot easier for everyone if you just changed your name again. How about `GOPgreatgrandma’?
Exactly, and our side is willing to surrender it. It makes them feel morally superior.
The problem isn't the name, it's who is in control.
And those who are now in control aren't going to give up control ever.
Therefore it's dead, my friend. Dead. Dead. Dead.
And so, your subjective view on whether a new party will work or not is irrelevant. Whether or not it will work it must be tried.
What about the "Free Republic Party" .. we've already got the base for it right here.
I’ll forgive you for that but this is symptomatic of where we are. We will forever be relegated to the back of the bus until we can decide we have some common ground on which to fight.
Because the Methodist Church is going in the right direction on Life. Libertarians are already in the wrong camp.
I’m willing to throw the Republican Party overboard because I do not see them going in the right direction.
Those who know the UMC know that this past denominational conference in May 08, they took even more steps back toward an affirmation of life. (Many also don’t know that the UMC is arranged in bishop’s areas, and that each of these is virtually independent. There is no head bishop or head anything. The “head” is the 4 year denominational meeting known as the “General Conference.)
We need to use that money to run primary campaigns AGAINST incumbent Republicans who are NOT conservatives. We need to remove the cancer from the party before we ever hope to bring it to health.
I was just thinking the same thing. ;)
I'm looking at how the radical left took over the Rats. I will fight everything they want to do and believe in, but I recognize they have created an effective model to turn the RAT party to their will.
Our problem has always been that we will support conservatives, get them elected and then they sell us out. How do we change that? Control the money and endorsements!
Thank you for some logic rather than anger.
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