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Democratic Senator Unveils Mandatory Health Insurance Plan
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 12, 2008 | John McCormack

Posted on 11/12/2008 6:00:02 PM PST by lowbridge

he New York Times reports that Democratic senator Max Baucus will unveil his nationalized health care proposal today, and (surprise!) it would require all Americans to purchase health insurance:

The plan proposed by Mr. Baucus, Democrat of Montana, would eventually require everyone to have health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies for those who could not otherwise afford it.

Other Democrats with deep experience in health care are also drafting proposals to expand coverage and slow the growth of health costs. These lawmakers include Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Representatives John D. Dingell of Michigan and Pete Stark of California.

The proposals are all broadly compatible with Mr. Obama’s campaign promises. But Mr. Baucus’s 35,000-word plan would go further than Mr. Obama’s in one respect, eventually requiring all people — not just children — to have coverage. [...]

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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
And if they have no income? If we have a depression and 25% are unemployed, the 75% working covers the unemployed 25%?

A little thing like logic will never discourage Liberals.

21 posted on 11/12/2008 6:37:18 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: lowbridge
slow the growth of health costs

I would think it would have the opposite affect.

22 posted on 11/12/2008 6:41:53 PM PST by KingNo155
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To: Repeal 16-17

i see no need for a revolution - the economic system will collapse on its own accord. Just be ready to pick up the pieces.


23 posted on 11/12/2008 6:42:03 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lowbridge
Other Democrats with deep experience in health care are also drafting proposals to expand coverage and slow the growth of health costs. These lawmakers include Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Representatives John D. Dingell of Michigan and Pete Stark of California.

Not one of the morons listed have deep experience in health care. They are career thieves that like to play social engineer. They don't know jack $hit about the intricacies of providing health care!

24 posted on 11/12/2008 6:44:05 PM PST by USMA '71
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To: lowbridge
I don't think I'll let him make me do anything today.

25 posted on 11/12/2008 6:46:14 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: lowbridge

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov

Barney Frank wants to take over the Big 3 also, until he was told the Big 3 were automakers.


26 posted on 11/12/2008 6:48:27 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: muawiyah

ping


27 posted on 11/12/2008 6:50:14 PM PST by Glacier Honey (`)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Uh, then you pay, via subsidy.


28 posted on 11/12/2008 6:53:22 PM PST by Boiling Pots
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To: randita

BINGO!

Let me tell you the story of New Jersey and MANDATORY auto insurance years ago. They had a state run insurance program for those who could not (for one reason or another) get car insurance...many of the insurers fled NJ because of the regulations.

So many people were on the state plan AND the state had no incentive to seek and wipe out fraud, that the system went bankrupt! It was a massive boondoggle! Eventually, incentives were given to bring insurers into NJ....it’s still mandatory, but the state is basically out of the insurance business. (as far as I know)

When government gets into the medical insurance game, costs will go up, fraud will go up, and services will tank.


29 posted on 11/12/2008 7:02:15 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: t2buckeye
Young Moslem men run a racket in the slums around Paris where they'll take your old beater car and burn it for EU50 or thereabouts.

The automobile insurance company is either government owned or tightly controlled. You report your car stolen and they'll cut you a check for the current "Blue Book" or equivalent list "value".

They don't send an insurance adjuster (valuable state employee) out to check on these things.

Just before all the nonsense a couple of years ago when the Moslems were burning so many cars, the price of new cars came down several percent. Many people sought "trade in" value by driving down to the slums to get their cars burned.

Note, France has a normal backgrund burn rate of about 100 cars per week. During the "riots" that jumped to 200 cars per week.

Unless you understood their government controlled auto insurance program you'd think the Moslems were making some sort of political statement (rather than just picking up a little money from The Man)

30 posted on 11/12/2008 7:16:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: aWolverine

“I don’t think I’ll let him make me do anything today.”

A little play on words from the movie “Tombstone” perhaps. Great movie.


31 posted on 11/12/2008 7:32:09 PM PST by repubpub
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To: Heartland Mom
I don’t understand how our country is on the verge of bankruptcy and these a$$ clowns just never let up - just keep spending money right and left like there is just no end in sight.

They are only spending it in their minds right now

Reality will soon set in

That $750billion bailout that is now NOT going to the banks will be needed for all the unemployment benefits

Problem is with all the unemployment they won't be able to get the $750B cause tax revenues will be down

These idiots are living in never never land
32 posted on 11/12/2008 7:54:39 PM PST by uncbob
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

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33 posted on 11/13/2008 7:17:22 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: lowbridge

I wonder why these people don’t understand that health insurance is not the same as health care.


34 posted on 11/13/2008 7:18:42 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
Democratic senator Max Baucus will unveil his nationalized health care proposal today, and (surprise!) it would require all Americans to purchase health insurance ... with federal subsidies for those who could not otherwise afford it.



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35 posted on 11/13/2008 8:17:06 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: lowbridge

A nice little corporate welfare package for insurance companies and HMOs - guaranteed income via yet another fascist Public-Private-Partnership. Socialism comes in more than one flavor (but none can quite mask the shitty aftertaste and violent explosive diarrhea).


36 posted on 11/13/2008 8:46:48 AM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: lowbridge

require all Americans to purchase health insurance ... with federal subsidies for those who could not otherwise afford it.

Worked so well recently in Hawaii.

/s


37 posted on 11/13/2008 9:16:50 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: lowbridge
"Other Democrats with deep experience in health care are also drafting proposals to expand coverage and slow the growth of health costs. These lawmakers include Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts"

Kennedy!? Oh yeah! The guy who flies in the 10 top surgeons in world to care for him! Yeah, what a sweetie to stick us with 3rd world health care.

38 posted on 11/13/2008 9:21:10 AM PST by avacado
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To: ABQHispConservative

1) The news media throughout the state has systematically eviscerated any competition. [One potential Pubby candidate foolishly announced his campaign last year and got three-months’ worth of almost daily front page “stories” (aka hit pieces) covering him, each and every member of his family and any acquaintance they could find and slander.]

2) Montana has an open primary system. [Dims here did an Inverse Operation Chaos and got a semipro political goofball (A perpetual candidate for every office on the ballot under every party label imaginable EXCEPT Pubby....until this year, surprise, surprise) anointed as the official Republican candidate for US Senate.]

3) Good ol’ Max went out and gathered over TEN MILLION DOLLARS in campaign funds. Most of it from out of state. The same “news” media that trashed all his competition didn’t even mention that amidst all the Hymns and Anthems they chanted right up to election day.

4) In case there was any petty little problems with voters who didn’t favor his reelection, our Big Time Dim Governor slipped up last summer in a speech to some contributors and described all the vote fraud schemes he had on tap. [That’s okay...the media gave him a pass after his buddy the State AG declared it was just a joke and a few of the contributors chimed in with the same story.]

Any more questions?


39 posted on 11/13/2008 10:55:36 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (No **** comment.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Sounds like SOP for rats everywhere. I just didn’t think it was that severe in Montana.

I take it the Montana GOP has done nothing to close their primaries? Does the Montana GOP have any strategist?


40 posted on 11/13/2008 11:01:14 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (Liberal + Democrat = Socialist)
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