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Democratic Senator Unveils Mandatory Health Insurance Plan
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 12, 2008 | John McCormack

Posted on 11/12/2008 6:00:02 PM PST by lowbridge

he New York Times reports that Democratic senator Max Baucus will unveil his nationalized health care proposal today, and (surprise!) it would require all Americans to purchase health insurance:

The plan proposed by Mr. Baucus, Democrat of Montana, would eventually require everyone to have health insurance coverage, with federal subsidies for those who could not otherwise afford it.

Other Democrats with deep experience in health care are also drafting proposals to expand coverage and slow the growth of health costs. These lawmakers include Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Representatives John D. Dingell of Michigan and Pete Stark of California.

The proposals are all broadly compatible with Mr. Obama’s campaign promises. But Mr. Baucus’s 35,000-word plan would go further than Mr. Obama’s in one respect, eventually requiring all people — not just children — to have coverage. [...]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; healthcare; healthinsurance; lp; maxbaucus; socialism; socializedhealthcare
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1 posted on 11/12/2008 6:00:03 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

And if they can’t afford it...?


2 posted on 11/12/2008 6:01:23 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lowbridge

Can someone from Montana explain to me how this clown keeps getting reelected?


3 posted on 11/12/2008 6:01:45 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (Liberal + Democrat = Socialist)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Health insurance is the new social security but more expensive......just another mandatory payroll deduction.

What you get for your money is long lines, poor treatment and under-educated foreign doctors who don't speak english and are marking time until their citizenship papers come through...

4 posted on 11/12/2008 6:04:41 PM PST by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = 2 memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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To: x_plus_one

So, unemployed Americans are covered by payroll deductions from the employed?


5 posted on 11/12/2008 6:08:02 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Good question. My family benefits ran out in October. I have a hubby and 2 boys. Hubby looking for work desperately, 26 years of HVAC/R experience and no takers. I cannot afford coverage as of now. Praying kids don’t get sick or hurt. I guess if they make it mandatory I can hope they put us in jail so at least we have a roof, meals, and health care on staff. This coming from a woman who stayed home for 15 years to raise my kids, hubby worked 2-3 jobs to keep me there, homeschooled til I had to get a job to help. Never late on a bill, now when I am struggling to put food on the table and not lose my home add THIS?? I quit. Where is the f(##(ing line, I don’t want pie, I NEED pie and it SUCKS!


6 posted on 11/12/2008 6:09:22 PM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: x_plus_one
Two different things ~ medical insurance is what you pay for. Medical care is what you get. They aren't even related.

You can get long lines, etc. no matter who pays.

7 posted on 11/12/2008 6:09:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: x_plus_one
BTW, if your foreign doctor is from Pakistan you are IN LUCK BIG TIME. Ordinary training for an MD over there includes disecting 15 or more cadavers.

They also have every disease known to man and if you just step out the door onto a main sidewalk in any city you will encounter people with those diseases instantly.

These guys turn into truly great diagnosticians.

A family friend is wrapping up his training in Pakistan and will return here shortly to begin studying for the Boards.

8 posted on 11/12/2008 6:13:46 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: lowbridge

How will it get paid for? We are deficit spending like no tomorrow and soon no one may buy our bonds.
We can’t raise taxes because of the economy so how we will afford all the new entitlements?????????


9 posted on 11/12/2008 6:14:55 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: lowbridge

I don’t understand how our country is on the verge of bankruptcy and these a$$ clowns just never let up - just keep spending money right and left like there is just no end in sight.


10 posted on 11/12/2008 6:17:05 PM PST by Heartland Mom ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: lowbridge

This sounds very similar to the “plan” we have here in Massachusetts.

There is a shortage of physicians here due to the influx of new insureds. I’m on my third primary care physician in one year, and this is very clear to me.

Employers have discovered that it it often cheaper to drop or not offer health insurance to employees, pay a small penalty and let the state take their workers into its coverage.

The “estimated cost” of the program was exceeded in Year One by 150 million and continues to balloon into an abominable snowball rushing at the taxpayers.

And, as always, those who can afford it get now may not be able to later. Interference by the state keep premiums or deductibles rising, and soon many more will be forced to the state coverage. I will fight like hell before that happens to me, because the program is called MassHealth, also known here as the name of the state welfare program.

The end result? Everyone covered under Big State, or B.S. if you will.


11 posted on 11/12/2008 6:19:27 PM PST by LostInBayport (The press and the Barackolytes view you as a miracle worker...so turn the economy into wine, Barry.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
they are going to take our 401ks and ira’s! that amounts to 80 billion a year.
they steal it from us one way or the other....
12 posted on 11/12/2008 6:20:01 PM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: LostInBayport
Employers have discovered that it it often cheaper to drop or not offer health insurance to employees, pay a small penalty and let the state take their workers into its coverage.

That was the intention all along.

13 posted on 11/12/2008 6:22:36 PM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
And if they can’t afford it...?

It will be deducted from their wages, until the fines are enough to pay for said insurance. Hillary referred to this earlier this year.

14 posted on 11/12/2008 6:26:16 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

And if they have no income? If we have a depression and 25% are unemployed, the 75% working covers the unemployed 25%?


15 posted on 11/12/2008 6:29:34 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lowbridge

I don’t care if they put me in jail, I am young, self-employed, and I WON’T BUY IT! This is just a tax, and gift to the insurance industry: NO.


16 posted on 11/12/2008 6:31:47 PM PST by JSDude1 (PAUL BROUN for House Republican Minority Leader..Mike Pence for conference chair!)
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To: lowbridge
"with federal subsidies for those who could not otherwise afford it."Ah, yes, let the taxpayers pay for others' medical insurance...what a concept!

AND, those who pay their own way get to take a number, lose their choices, and pay more for a government-run program of inefficiency, just so those "un-insured", aka, free-loaders, can get their Obama-wealth-redistribution-scam.

17 posted on 11/12/2008 6:32:27 PM PST by traditional1 ("The American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

...then they go to a re-education camp. That’ll teach them for being poor in a worker’s paradise!


18 posted on 11/12/2008 6:33:53 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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..then they go to a re-education camp. That’ll teach them for being poor in a worker’s paradise!

and the workers are taxed double for non-workers.

i feel like we're entering a Dr. Seuss story.

19 posted on 11/12/2008 6:36:54 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lowbridge

When in the course of human events....


20 posted on 11/12/2008 6:37:18 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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