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Democratic Proposal Includes Federal Stake in Car Companies
Foxnews.com ^ | 11/12/2008 | EagleUSA

Posted on 11/12/2008 4:05:18 PM PST by EagleUSA

WASHINGTON — Congressional Democrats are pushing legislation to send $25 billion in emergency loans to the beleaguered auto industry in exchange for a government ownership stake in the Big Three car companies.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., hope for quick passage of the auto bailout during a postelection session that begins Monday.

Legislation being drafted by Rep. Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, would dip into the $700 billion Wall Street rescue money, approved by Congress last month, for the auto aid.

President Bush is cool to that idea. But the White House says he is open to helping the industry, which is buckling under poor sales, tight credit and a sputtering economy.

In an Oval Office meeting Monday, President-elect Obama spoke to Bush about doing more to aid the industry, aides said, and Bush said he was open to it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; detroit; payback; unions; wastingmoney
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The frantic moves by the liberal Congress to shore up a huge voter constituency is disgusting. Why should the government have a stake in these companies that continue to FIX THE REAL PROBLEMS? Why should the taxpayers provide welfare for an industry that has self-destructed? What promises will the "BIG-3" make to taxpayer to FIX THE REAL PROBLEMS and pay back America? Where is the substance here, other than the libs just paying back the extortionist unions for their votes????
1 posted on 11/12/2008 4:05:18 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Hey not to worry. BARNEY FRANK is drafting the legislation. Given the great work that Rep. Frank did with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, everything should be just fine.


2 posted on 11/12/2008 4:07:58 PM PST by Argus (Stuff Compassionate and Maverick - just try plain old CONSERVATISM again)
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To: Argus

Hey not to worry. BARNEY FRANK is drafting the legislation. Given the great work that Rep. Frank did with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, everything should be just fine.
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Yeah, sell your Big-3 stock fast!!!


3 posted on 11/12/2008 4:09:08 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

How about helping the auto industry by rolling back the CAFE standards.


4 posted on 11/12/2008 4:11:58 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: EagleUSA
These worthless communists ought to have their asses kicked daily until they come to their senses. They, the democRATS are the reason that this whole economic situation came about.
They are the ones that forced unions down our throats.
They are the ones that steal our hard-earned money and give it to their deadbeat constituency in return for votes (sometimes multiple votes per person).
They are the ones that forced the community reinvestment act on banks, which in turn killed many of them.
They are the ones that won't allow drilling for oil, resulting in the price spike throughout the last year.
They are the ones that have pushed the EPA's environazi actions which have choked our manufacturing capability.
They are the ones that continue to protect the trial lawyers that are ruining health care in this country.
They are the ones that have pushed the concoction of hyper-regulation on all businesses in America.
They are the ones that desecrated our military in the 1970's.
They are the ones that hamstrung our country's intelligence-gathering capabilities to the point that 9/11 could happen.

And yet, there's a sizeable population in the US that decided to vote for them anyway.

Of course, it didn't help that half the Republicans are RINOs who enjoy eating at the trough of socialism as much as most of the democRATS.

5 posted on 11/12/2008 4:15:21 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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..Where is the substance here, other than the libs just paying back the extortionist unions for their votes????

What does not seem to get included in any discussion about the auto industry are the union requirements for health care for retirees.

The unions is/are what is killing the auto industry, and it's also why do many dems are for squandering taxpayer dollars to GM and such.

6 posted on 11/12/2008 4:16:16 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: EagleUSA

Bush and Cheney should resign NOW!! Let Pelosi become President. They cannot be a party to this Communist talkeover anymore than they already have. It sickens me, and I weep for this once proud country.


7 posted on 11/12/2008 4:17:18 PM PST by RonnG
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To: Argus

Glad to hear it. Now I am going to make some popcorn and wait for the presser where Barney has to announce the bailout of the big fwee automakers; Genwal Motows, Fawd and Cwyslah.


8 posted on 11/12/2008 4:17:37 PM PST by JrsyJack
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To: meyer

And yet, there’s a sizeable population in the US that decided to vote for them anyway.
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Yep, stuck on stupid...they have been using their heads as rectal suppositories for decades now and look what it has done to our once-great nation.

Gee, the Dow was only down a bit over 400 points AGAIN today — on the election of Obama. Those voters need to get medals for their great work.


9 posted on 11/12/2008 4:18:10 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Rush says they are doing this to retain the auto worker’s union vote.


10 posted on 11/12/2008 4:21:02 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: EagleUSA

If Bush does this he will only help the RATS retain power longer. Don’t do it Mr. President!


11 posted on 11/12/2008 4:21:31 PM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: SGCOS

What does not seem to get included in any discussion about the auto industry are the union requirements for health care for retirees.
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Well, I included it in an earlier post — when GM filed for protection, it was formally announced that $1600 !! of every retail sticker price tag was needed to pay for benefits for people who DO NOT EVEN WORK FOR THE COMPANY ANY MORE. The management of these companies is just as guilty for the destruction of this once-great industry as the unions are.


12 posted on 11/12/2008 4:21:59 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: aviator

Rush says they are doing this to retain the auto worker’s union vote.
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Yes, and it is the ONLY reason they are doing it. These socialists are hell-bent on the destruction of capitalism and our greatness. The auto industry is the LAST BIG INDUSTRY left in America. The left has over-taxed and over-regulated our corporations which has pushed them offshore and/or out of business....and the mindless electorate keeps them in power.

Total insanity.


13 posted on 11/12/2008 4:24:37 PM PST by EagleUSA
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Yeah let’s nationalize the auto industry and then utilities and then the oil industry and then the banks and then.....


14 posted on 11/12/2008 4:24:50 PM PST by kabar
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To: meyer

It ain’t rocket science... The reason we have gotten to this point:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship.”
Professor Alexander Tyler (1787) Famous-quote.net; Per Library of Congress

And, now that the DhimmiRats have successfully built an electorate that gorges themselves at the public trough, they are turning to the corporations. It only makes sense for them to start with the industries most highly unionized as they will have less resistance, quicker acquiescence, and more solid footing.
Oh, and for the purist Freepers...the quote attribution is contested by a wide variety of folks, and has been ascribed to a number of different sources. The above is as found in the Library of Congress.


15 posted on 11/12/2008 4:25:51 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: kabar

Yeah let’s nationalize the auto industry and then utilities and then the oil industry and then the banks and then.....
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Yes, Obamao and Chavez will be good friends soon.


16 posted on 11/12/2008 4:26:42 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

At what point do the Bolshecrats dictate to the unions? There will not be a need for a union when management is the government. The unions would be better off backing Republicans, where, they would have someone to deal with.


17 posted on 11/12/2008 4:27:43 PM PST by depressed in 06 (Zero is president elect equates to I have no president elect.)
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To: kabar

They’ve already nationalized your future...SS...and totally control your account and the amount you receive.....and can change it at anytime.


18 posted on 11/12/2008 4:30:51 PM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: PubliusMM

Here is what I don’t get though. Why would these companies agree to be partly owned by the government when they could just file bankruptcy and reorganize with less union thuggery contracts?

It is like they don’t care anymore.


19 posted on 11/12/2008 4:33:12 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: EagleUSA
From Barney Frank Motors soon to be at a showroom near you:


20 posted on 11/12/2008 4:37:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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