Posted on 11/12/2008 10:57:08 AM PST by Blogger
Compare this thread from earlier this year http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1994684/posts
With this article & recent history... http://www.cnbc.com/id/27641538
That has been what I have been saying for some time now. DON’T TALK ABOUT IT!
You are tipping the other side off and making yourself (and the rest of us) a target.
Not that a 15 minute check of my ordering history wouldn’t tell someone I like to reload.
They can’t do anything...yet. No laws have been broken in any of my purchases.
Pretty sure there been quite a few threads/comments here talking about recent weapons purchases so I won’t be the only one they are “monitoring”.
The government isn’t monitoring message boards and forums for a complete history of anyone’s gun ownership. More likely they would be monitoring it for threats. Talking about guns doesn’t tip anyone off, as you said...they can pull up your registration history, the number of times a check has been run on you, the number of traffic tickets you ever recieved and probably what you ate for dinner last night. Talking about it publicly doesn’t contribute anything they couldn’t already get.
Supposedly there is one of these prison like facilities in Beech Grove, Indiana. It is in an old train station that has been turned into a government camp of some sort. Numbered queues, razor wire, etc.
Odd place, Supposedly Richard Lugar has gotten pork for this place. Lugar R IN is a buddy to Obama.
I have never rove to see this place, so I don’t know if this is what they say it is.
This has been out there for a while. A few of us here at FR have tried to keep threads going on this so that everyone can see it. I urge everyone who views this to pass it along to anyone you know. It should give them reason to be concerned and to act.
This trend of Western nations slowly becoming police states is so sad, biblical, but sad all the same. Everything is coming together slowly for the Antichrist.
My son-in-law has mentioned the anti-Christ quite a bit duing this election cycle. I’m not sure if I can apply that logic to things just yet. But I do not rule it completely out. I guess I always felt like the anti-Christ would be less obvious. but...who knows?
I wonder if in the interest of security JimR might be able to erase all our posting histories...just a paranoid thought....
I was speaking more of the police state trend being a useful tool for the AC, facilitating his system of complete control. You know "can't buy or sell without the mark.." blah blah blah.
Except it is all cached already.
FR has been called “Hate speech” in the past. Posting on FR could possibly get you into trouble in the obama admin, and talking about gun purchases can get you labeled as a “domestic terrorist”.
Not likely now, but if things get REALLY interesting...
Go ahead and add in an intentionally staged Constitutional crisis based on having a non-natural US citizen as POTUS (resulting in the calling of a ConCon and the disposal of that pesky “Bill of Roghts” thingy) and you got yourself a winner.
They won’t stand quietly in soup lines. With the doubling of our government debt and guaranteeing everything (except money markets, they changed their minds), we won’t have money for the soup. No soup for you!!
Nope.
Just like the NRA/GOA membership rosters, it’s a nice, tidy list all ready made up for whomever “wants” it.
You can’t put that genie back in the bottle.
[but don’t worry...it’s only ~Google~ that’s archiving us]
Ironically, some FReepers said I was crazy/paranoid/eating tinfoil for posting this over the years:
Initial hydroponic machine investment (3 units over 2 years)$500, which seemed a good investment after we exited the market and went to cash. Kit with sponge pods=$40 initially/$12 for refills of 21-3 crops). The plastic cages for the sponges are recyclable and I am experimenting with getting 2 crops out of the sponges themselves by picking out the roots, washing the pods well and microwaving for 30 seconds to kill whatever I missed. I will be using one of the recycled pods in my next lettuce planting to see if it works. Lights good for 2 crops or more, each set and $14-$20 to replace per machine. I use the included nutrients to start and Miracle Grow once past the initial growing stage. Only Miracle Grow in the dirt containers. Electricity costs are about a total of $5/month for 3 hydroponic units and one dirt unit (2-24 watt grow tubes and 2-75 watt extra lights) For a dirt grow, I set up a shelving unit with the interior shelves taken out, the lights there are on chains so they can be raised/lowered, the clamp lights can be moved up and down the support posts. Because I rely on wood heat and only a little propane as backup morning and overnight, I draped the shelving unit with 2 mylar space blankets. This keeps the interior temperature at about 68. I add 15 minutes of ceramic heater use early morning and just before the lights go out in the evening (lights are on 16 hrs/off 8 hrs). I have one 15-watt heated pot (Logee’s online/$50) and the tomatoes in there are doing wonderfully, but the other one is doing ok, too, just a tad slower. The rooms with the hydro units can be lit with just the grow lights (60-65 watts), so other illumination is not needed. I also hung a piece of mylar behind the large hydro unit in my kitchen, which helps throw the illumination to the front of the plant.
I started this as therapy. I really think the grow light illumination is helping my S.A.D. and I know that tending the plants is helping my general outlook. Seeing the price of fresh produce this past year helped me expand the project. I wanted us to have fresh produce at reasonable cost. I also have a 40-year-old calamondin orange tree that is very hardy, takes neglect and abuse in stride and produces 75-100+ little sour oranges/year. It spends the summer outside. I use the fruit for marmalade and add it to cranberries or use it in marinades/dressings.
Miniature seeds are available, along with lots of information at
http://www.containerseeds.com/index.html
I am planning an area for miniature beets and round carrots in a south window. If I wait until after New Year's, I think I may not need lights for the root veggies.
Last winter/Spring, we had cherry tomatoes and lettuce from two of the hydro units. While I am sure this year's crops, using my own seeds instead of preplanted seed pods and real tomato fertilizer instead of the weaker nutrient tablets, will be better tasting (they already have 5x the yield/plant in set fruit), it is an ongoing experiment.
I will use the starter tray kit available from AeroGarden to start my garden this Spring. I usually purchase plants from Burpee and love them, but the price has gone way up and I have been impressed with the sturdiness and rapidity of growth in the hydroponic units compared to regular dirt cells/warming pads.
Most of all, this is fun! Everyone who sees them is inspired to do it themselves and I have produce to share, since there are only two of us. I can store the harvest in Green Bags, so it lasts while the next crop is growing.
Next might be the attached small greenhouse, but I have some space issues. A friend has done the same as your NoDak friend and I am waiting to see what her costs are. Meanwhile, I am producing veggies inside the house.
If you live in a cold climate, add thermal underwear. I bought my husband some military issue thermals last summer, on sale. They were still expensive (about $70w/shipping), but he wore them hunting and they were excellent. Will be useful for snowblowing and wood splitting this winter. Bought myself regular cotton Duo Folds and both of us thermal sox that wick out perspiration as well as retain body heat. I love them! Also check out shearling slippers with outdoor soles. I bought those for the entire family a couple of years ago and will by another set for everyone in the Spring. They last several years, even with me wearing mine almost 24/7 unless I have to leave the house/shop. They also are available in ankle heights if someone needs extra support.
Your post reminded me of; Those who think it’s impossible shouldn’t interrupt those who are doing it.
Congratulations!
If you hadn’t posted the info about your NoDak friend’s greenhouse, I probably would have kept my info between myself/other gardeners. So, you didn’t interrupt at all and provided incentive for me to share.
If our money is going to be worth less, we may as well invest it in things that help us maintain health, sanity and some of our former life style.
My husband is planning to repair his old blacksmith forge and investing in coal/coke. We think there will be a need for repair facilities for farm/garden implements, axles, other tool fabrication, repair/recycling, etc. He renewed his oxy acetylene tanks this year, too, after not using them for a few years.
I am glad FReepers are discussing this. I think it spurs everyone to re-evaluate their plans and could be the impetus for a parallel economy, if one is needed. If it isn’t needed, well, we still have viable hobbies and can be more self-sufficient.
>we still have viable hobbies and can be more self-sufficient.<
You’ll never learn to support socialism with an attitude like that!
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