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Running on empty, GM's fate is debated (No debate here, NO BAILOUT!)
MSNBC ^ | 11/12/2008 | Kendra Marr and Sholnn Freeman/WASHINGTON POST

Posted on 11/12/2008 5:58:26 AM PST by tobyhill

As General Motors burns through cash, edging its way toward possible financial collapse, a growing number of analysts have said bankruptcy might be inevitable. GM insists such a move is out of the question, and as the debate roils, people on both sides point to two past scenarios for lessons.

One is a story of success. Several major U.S. airlines have operated under Chapter 11 bankruptcy provisions. United Airlines has been through it. US Airways and Continental Airlines filed twice. Both Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines, which are in the process of combining operations, emerged from bankruptcy court protection last year. Labor contracts were renegotiated, and everyone, from baggage handlers to pilots, took pay cuts. Yet through it all, travelers continued to book tickets to fly.

But another was a disaster. Daewoo Motor -- South Korea's equivalent of Chrysler -- could not stay afloat during the Asian financial crisis. In 2000, burdened by $16 billion in debt, it filed for bankruptcy. About 7,000 workers lost their jobs, and many suppliers buckled. Daewoo was sold off in pieces to other automakers, including GM. Because GM's purchase did not include Daewoo's U.S. distribution network, many dealers lost their franchises. Its global brand all but disappeared.

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1 posted on 11/12/2008 5:58:26 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

The best thing to do is let them fall. If they were horses, we’d have to shoot them.............


2 posted on 11/12/2008 6:00:04 AM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: tobyhill

The union’s chickensssssss, are coming home,..... to rooooooosssssssst.


3 posted on 11/12/2008 6:01:18 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: The_Victor

HEH HEH HEH.........


4 posted on 11/12/2008 6:02:49 AM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: tobyhill
I hope all of you union workers are happy now. Destroy the very companies that gave you jobs. Oh well.
5 posted on 11/12/2008 6:03:04 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: tobyhill

the airlines offered a service- flying for business or pleasure. The cost of that service was a couple hundred or couple thousand dollars

GM offers an expensive product line, it takes many people 5 years or more to pay for it - and there are far cheaper alternatives known as “used cars”, or even “mass transit”

big difference


6 posted on 11/12/2008 6:04:08 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Red Badger
The best thing to do is let them fall. If they were horses,
we’d have to shoot them.............


Not necessarily.
Given how much pain some folks have experienced due to GM products...
watching GM suffer as it dies might be a plus.

In fact, some folks might be disappointed that GM doesn't suffer
long enough in it's death spiral. Or sufficiently.
7 posted on 11/12/2008 6:04:21 AM PST by VOA
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To: tobyhill

Pelosi and Reid want to use our money to keep their Zombies alive.


8 posted on 11/12/2008 6:04:46 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: unixfox

Nasty Nancy has to pay them back for the obama votes


9 posted on 11/12/2008 6:05:13 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: tobyhill

Bailing out just delays the inevitable.

Let them reorganize and get some concessions from the union which will help them have a chance to actually be a profitable enterprise.

If as a business you think the governement will bail you out when things get tough then you never really have to manage the company to make a profit.


10 posted on 11/12/2008 6:05:34 AM PST by Moconservative
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To: tobyhill

Have the UAW Bail them out.


11 posted on 11/12/2008 6:06:28 AM PST by NoLibZone (Odinga is NOT My president.)
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To: Moconservative

Kill the unions - NOW !!!

JUST SAY NO TO MORE BAILOUTS.

The last one worked out so well...


12 posted on 11/12/2008 6:06:31 AM PST by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: tobyhill

Let them go Chapter 11. It will force them to make the cuts they haven’t had the stones to do up until now.


13 posted on 11/12/2008 6:06:37 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: VOA

Especially owners of the Vegas and Gas-Diesel conversions and the 8-6-4.........


14 posted on 11/12/2008 6:06:55 AM PST by Red Badger (Hey! Look on the bright side! At least Joe Biden is out of the Senate!..........)
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To: The_Victor
i bet malcom X never imagined how popular his statement would become regarding JFK's assassination! thanks to rev wright it has come home to haunt them;)
15 posted on 11/12/2008 6:07:10 AM PST by CanadianMusherinMI (drill baby drill/mine baby mine!)
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To: Moconservative

maybe they can also renegotiate the CAFE standards that helped put them here right along with the unions and poor management....


16 posted on 11/12/2008 6:07:55 AM PST by joe fonebone (The libtard votes in every election, regardless of the candidate.)
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To: unixfox

Yeah, but we got a really good contact....


17 posted on 11/12/2008 6:08:05 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 11-4-2012)
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To: tobyhill

Email congress members to let them KNOW that we are against any bailout.


18 posted on 11/12/2008 6:08:11 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: NoLibZone

Have the UAW Bail them out.
.. ... .. ... ..

How much did they contribute to B Hussein and other Dems this campaign?

What a waste, complete waste. This money should have gone towards saving their industry.

JUST SAY NO TO BAILOUTS.


19 posted on 11/12/2008 6:08:17 AM PST by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation !)
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To: tobyhill

They want the money to pay for pension and health care obligations.

This is just not fair. Our 401K has lost about 30% in the past year and our health insurance just creeps up and up. And what’s going to happen is O is going to raise our taxes to bailout the irresponsible. How are we going to put money in our own pensions and buy our own health care?

There are getting to be way too many people in the lifeboat - way too many people.


20 posted on 11/12/2008 6:09:31 AM PST by randita (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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