[beachn4fun]

Palin electrified the base, not McCain. She presented as a true conservative

We peasants see this. But, those ruling the kingdom don't seem to listen to the peasants. They are trying to force us to take their pick.

I don't know if anyone has pointed this out, but I think one thing strange is - I'm hearing how some from the McCain center are blaming Palin. If I remember correctly they are saying she is too conservative. Too conservative? Is the RNC now worried about being too conservative?

So, what this tells me is that over the last 10-20 years the Republicans are starting to lean toward the liberal side and the DemocRATs have turned to the dark side of liberalism (there used to be many conservative Dems, but apparently no more).

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

So, what this tells me is that over the last 10-20 years the Republicans are starting to lean toward the liberal side and the DemocRATs have turned to the dark side of liberalism (there used to be many conservative Dems, but apparently no more).

Your right. They are now an endangered species, notwithstanding the so called Blue Dogs.

I think the last conservative Dem was Zell Miller

BTW can anyone site the last time a RAT actually bucked their leadership and "reached across the aisle" to support a Republican sponsored Bill?

I can't!!!

BUT I can name many RINO's who jumped ship and joined the rats over and over and over.

[EBH]

So, what this tells me is that over the last 10-20 years the Republicans are starting to lean toward the liberal side

And that is why the party will split. For whatever sad, sad reason the Democrats don't see the 'rats as where we do see what is happening to what was once our Party. If the GOP doesn't wake-up we will see not 2 parties in 2010, but 3 with the GOP being a tiny minority. I think by 2012 there will be 4 parties.