1 posted on
11/11/2008 5:16:23 AM PST by
tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
Gee thanks Bush, really looking out for the Taxpayer, eh?
2 posted on
11/11/2008 5:17:04 AM PST by
Boiling Pots
(Time to put Bush/McCain "conservatism" back to the back)
To: tobyhill
3 posted on
11/11/2008 5:17:17 AM PST by
ConservativeMan55
(Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
To: tobyhill
let the auto companies go chapter 11. Reorganize and move to Right-to-work states....like most of the Japs who build their cars here in America.
5 posted on
11/11/2008 5:18:48 AM PST by
Vaquero
("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: tobyhill
Will GW re-grow a set and let the democrats handle this UAW tar baby all on their own?
We can only hope...
7 posted on
11/11/2008 5:20:34 AM PST by
silverleaf
(Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
To: tobyhill
I really hope that W told Bammie to "Go F--- yourself". the unions did nothing for W or McCain, and Bammie is just going to trash talk him after he is in off ice no matter what W does.
Bammie said he can change it, lets see him hope his way out of this mess.
8 posted on
11/11/2008 5:21:17 AM PST by
verga
(I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
To: tobyhill
I remember the same situation with another “Union Hogged” company... Can you spell “ Bethlehem steel “ ?
The country did just fine after their fall. They deserved to fall because of unions taking all of the money needed to modernize.
My friend at the time was a 30 year man. Retired at 55 with full Bennie's including great health, pension. Went to live the life in Florida . Two years later “”” BAM”””. Working in a motel as the mechanical engineer now. He survived, and so can auto workers.
10 posted on
11/11/2008 5:24:26 AM PST by
primatreat
("Flight animals are a nice source of food and wonderful target practice".)
To: tobyhill
Mr Bush said that he could support some aid in exchange for approval of a free-trade agreement with Colombia but there was no sign that either the President-elect or his Democratic colleagues were willing to bend on that issue. 1) I wish Bush were not so eager to make deals.
2) We see here the Obama Approach to "working across the aisle" in a "bipartisan" manner so that he can "unify" the country. It's basically summed up by the notion "I insist that you give me what I want, and in return, I give you nothing."
To: tobyhill
Mr Bush said that he could support some aid in exchange for approval of a free-trade agreement with Colombia but there was no sign that either the President-elect or his Democratic colleagues were willing to bend on that issue.
Free trade with Colombia is a deal-breaker. Bush knows this, which is why he offered it as a trade. He can say that he offered a reasonable solution, and the Dems rebuffed it.
Bush owes nothing to the automakers, and less than nothing to Michigan and the other mid-west auto-manufacturing states that helped throw the election to Obama. Elections have consequences, y'know? Let Obama and the Dems deal with the situation 2-4 months further down the road.
To: tobyhill
Goodbye Forest Bush. It wasn't so great to know you...
13 posted on
11/11/2008 5:30:12 AM PST by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
To: tobyhill
Barack Obama used yesterday's Oval Office meeting with President Bush to press for immediate aid for the struggling US car industry, according to leaked reports.The USA is in deeper financial trouble that we realize. Obama and his union thugs will bankrupt the entire country. GM is in trouble because they cannot be competitive with a $1,800 surcharge on each and every car thanks to demands by union thugs. Now the thugs want the taxpayers to pay the $1,800 for them; that is socialism.
14 posted on
11/11/2008 5:30:47 AM PST by
olezip
To: tobyhill
The dam has burst. The bailouts will continue until morale improves....
16 posted on
11/11/2008 5:31:29 AM PST by
mlocher
(USA is a sovereign nation)
To: tobyhill
Obama wants Bush to take the larger deficit the bailout will produce. that makes Obama look better. Two months will not make that much difference.
When Detroit makes a better car I’ll buy one, Not until then.
Detroit cannot put something on the market and tell the consumer. take it or leave it. Americans didn’t take it.
17 posted on
11/11/2008 5:31:48 AM PST by
chainsaw
( No racist radical Muslims in the WH)
To: tobyhill
why not make it conditional on CH 11 so all the union contracts can be revised?
(ie pay to NOT work BS)
18 posted on
11/11/2008 5:33:56 AM PST by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: tobyhill
Did Obama show President Bush his idea for the new presidential limo?
To: tobyhill
Make that car companies with big Unions. Is why they want bailout.
To: tobyhill
Pres. Bush owes the UAW and the Democrats who have sunk Michigan absolutely nothing. He certainly does not need to obligate taxpayers in the conservative states to their bailout.
There is a mechanism for failed businesses. It is Chapter 11 bankruptcy. That’s what “the little people” have to face when their businesses fail, so why should GM be given special treatment?
To: tobyhill
I don’t understand why the UAW doesn’t just do a hostile takeover of GM and then run it like “it should be run.” They keep complaining how it is mismanaged, well now it is their opportunity to step up to the plate. The union won’t though because they need victims(the poorly treated worker) in order to survive and they certainly aren’t going to give up that cash cow.
To: tobyhill
I don’t understand why the UAW doesn’t just do a hostile takeover of GM and then run it like “it should be run.” They keep complaining how it is mismanaged, well now it is their opportunity to step up to the plate. The union won’t though because they need victims(the poorly treated worker) in order to survive and they certainly aren’t going to give up that cash cow.
To: tobyhill
There's a very good book called "The Myth of the Robber Barons" that every congressman should read. The book makes the case that entrepreneurs who work the government for deals, subsidies, protections,etc. fail much more often than the entrepreneurs who do not seek assistance from the government.
32 posted on
11/11/2008 6:04:04 AM PST by
Maurice Tift
(You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
To: tobyhill
Gee, if only they had asked sooner, the Big 3 could have had their congresscreeps add a little more pork to the bailout bill.
A measly $25-50 Billion wouldn't have been that much more.
33 posted on
11/11/2008 6:14:52 AM PST by
N. Theknow
(Watching FOX News now is like sifting through a roomful of horse$hit to find a pony.)
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