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A Decisive but Not Overwhelming Victory for Barack Obama
U.S. News & World Report ^ | November 07, 2008 | Michael Barone

Posted on 11/10/2008 5:36:44 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

This was a decisive but not an overwhelming victory for Barack Obama and the Democrats. As I put it in the lead of my U.S. News column for next week, it was a victory that was overdetermined and underdelivered. Obama's apparent percentage margin (we're still waiting for a lot of returns) is 52 percent to 46 percent, slightly higher than Bush 43's score in 2004 and slightly higher than Bush 41's in 1988. He owes his impressive 364-to-174 margin in the Electoral College to narrow wins in Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, and Indiana; he nearly added 11 more in Missouri.

I haven't had time to comb through the election returns yet to make definitive conclusions. I hesitate to crunch a lot of numbers that will change when final returns are in, but here are a few observations.

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To: Clintonfatigued

Close enuff. I dunno how to pin any ethnic vote down except for exit polling. Same article said 74% for Kerry in 2004.


21 posted on 11/10/2008 6:01:02 PM PST by dynachrome (Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: Clintonfatigued
narrow wins in Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, and Indiana

Yup. The Democrat party knew right where to commit the most massive vote fraud -- and it worked.

22 posted on 11/10/2008 6:02:56 PM PST by BenLurkin (Pray for gridlock.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

You are most likely right.


23 posted on 11/10/2008 6:04:06 PM PST by KansasGirl (Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Sarah!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The best way to fight back against people who supported Obama is to simply treat them the same way they voted.

For example, don’t do business with anyone who supported Barack Obama. Take your business to those with whom you feel more comfortable.

It might seem petty at first, but by voting for Obama, these business people signalled that they are doing well enough to pay MORE taxes to the federal government.

By supporting Obama, they signalled they have no problem with captured terrorists being freed or tried with Constitutional protections in America.

By supporting Obama, they signalled they don’t want increased domestic energy supply, and that they would just as soon fork over Billions of American dollars to countries that hate our guts.

I could go on and on, but you get the point.

I have no qualms about NOT supporting anyone and everyone whom I know for certain supported Obama.

The realtor whom I used in the past to buy and sell my houses will be the first business I never use again, because they were big Obama supporters.

It is a little disconcerting to ask who someone supported, but hard times call for hard actions.


24 posted on 11/10/2008 6:06:11 PM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
THE SAD AFTERMATH: The Republican National Committee has set up cleansing booths all around the country; but, it’s just not going to take away the stain from those wishy-washy conservatives who were sucked in by the siren call of the Obamassiah. His history of actions, associations and words simply went unheeded as they were mesmerized by his utopian rhetoric. No amount of detergent will take away the guilt.


25 posted on 11/10/2008 6:16:46 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: SkyDancer

26 posted on 11/10/2008 6:18:22 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Colonial Warrior

I wonder how many votes for “The One” were invalid. I wonder if we’ll ever know ....


27 posted on 11/10/2008 6:23:08 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: zot; Interesting Times

analysis ping


28 posted on 11/10/2008 6:24:44 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: Clintonfatigued
Never trust anyone under 30 ?
29 posted on 11/10/2008 6:28:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; NewRomeTacitus; darkangel82; Norman Bates

Barone’s referencing John Vliet Lindsay is personally bone-chilling to me. As too few of us even remember now, he was the worst Mayor of NYC in its history, and indeed, one of the worst Mayors in the history of the United States, plunging the city into chaos and exploding the crime rate beyond all proportions, driving it away from the relatively safe and stable municipality it had been up to that point. Virtually a million people exited the city during his tenure and in the resulting aftermath going clear up until about 1980. That exodus included my family, as my parents and I (then in utero) left Manhattan weeks after the conclusion of his term in January 1974, and my immigrant grandfather living in Jackson Heights, Queens, less than a year after that. If the False Messiah ends up anything like Lindsay, this country will be similarly plunged into chaos in short order.


30 posted on 11/10/2008 6:50:19 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. It was an electoral college landslide.


31 posted on 11/10/2008 6:52:19 PM PST by zot
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That’s a good point. And with Obama winning those making over $200K a year and those making under $30K a year, while losing the in-between, the potential for that kind of outcome is very real.


32 posted on 11/10/2008 6:52:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Obama's apparent percentage margin (we're still waiting for a lot of returns) is 52 percent to 46 percent ... slightly higher than Bush 41's in 1988.

False but inaccurate.

2008:
Obama - 52.50%
McCain - 46.15%

1988:
Bush - 53.37%
Dukakis - 45.65%

Obama did do much better than most Democrats. He was the first Democrat since Jimmy Carter to get more than 50% of the vote. Only three Democrats in American history have gotten a higher percentage of the popular vote than Obama: Lyndon Johnson, Franklin Roosevel, and Andrew Jackson.

On the other hand, most Republicans in American history have gotten a much higher percentage of the popular vote than Obama: Bush (in 1988), Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower, Hoover, Coolege, Harding, Theodore Roosevelt, Ulysses Grant and Abraham Lincoln.

It is an indisputable historic fact that most Democrat Presidents have won with a plurality in a multi-party race and most Republican Presidents have won by a clear majority. Basically, when we are most divided as a nation the Democrats have their best shot.

33 posted on 11/10/2008 7:16:04 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (DNC = Do Nothing Congress)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Obama won a majority of voters making $200,000 a year or more.

Just a bunch of massochists screaming that they ought to be taxed more. How idiotic!

34 posted on 11/10/2008 7:27:25 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: KansasGirl
I think Catholic voters went 54% to Obama.

Remember that almost all Hispanics are Catholics, and so a large chunk of the Catholic vote is Hispanic.

35 posted on 11/10/2008 7:30:14 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: SkyDancer

Count in all the fraud and the O popular vote margin had to be less than 7 million. Plus, you can easily say that the fraud tipped the balance to him in several of the very close states.


36 posted on 11/10/2008 7:34:21 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Clintonfatigued

Jewish voters solidly went for the Communist Organizer. Jewish folks are more fearful of Evangelicals than Hamas.

The “Yoot” did not increase their size of the electorate. They made up only 18% of the vote. However within that bloc, the “Yoots” broke for the Dems more strongly than 2004. Conservatives are so behind the 8 ball in attracting new voters. Merely fantasizing about the glory days of Reagan won’t cut it. When we speak about the Reagan years, we’ll draw blank faces from the “Yoots”. To them, Reagan is just a dead white dude they read about in history class.


37 posted on 11/10/2008 9:01:12 PM PST by yongin (Slick Willard beliefs: Yesterday a liberal. Today a faux conservative. Tomorrow who knows?)
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To: yongin

The only thing that will win them over is when Obamanomics fails, when they can’t get jobs.

OPERATION THRIFT!


38 posted on 11/10/2008 9:03:05 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda arm.)
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To: KansasGirl

If Catholics voted like Mormons, Jersey, MI, OH, PA, and RI would be GOP strongholds. Many Catholic immigrants (Italia, Polish, Irish) have worked blue collar jobs and have a family history of befriending labor unions. As a result, American Catholics have an economic populist streak. Also, Protestants oppose abortion more strongly than Catholics.


39 posted on 11/10/2008 9:07:51 PM PST by yongin (Slick Willard beliefs: Yesterday a liberal. Today a faux conservative. Tomorrow who knows?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The one downside to this article is that I found no mention of how religious blocs voted. I have wondered how Catholic and Jewish voters voted.

Obama solidly won both groups: Catholics by 54-45 (Bush won this group 52-47 four years ago -- ouch) and Jews by 78-21. McCain won only with Protestants (54-45).

40 posted on 11/10/2008 9:37:43 PM PST by kesg
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