Posted on 11/10/2008 12:33:31 PM PST by BlueStateBlues
If Barr's votes had gone to Palin and her running mate they would have won North Carolina and Indiana. North Carolina: Obama 49.9%, Palin 49.5%, Barr 0.6$ Indiana Obama 49.9%, Palin 49%, Barr 1.1% This would have been more important in a closer election, but it caught my interest when I looked the figures up.
I am a libertarian ideologically. I did not vote for Barr because he seemed like a fraud to me. I do think the Bush administration’s big-government spending and Bush’s push for that immigration bill travesty and the bailout was the final straw for a lot of true conservative/libertarians. Many stayed home and some voted for Barr.
I voted for McCain simply because I thought he had a shot at stopping Obama. I do hope the emerging Republican leadership learns the lesson of 2006/2008 and makes a clear case next time around for libertarians to believe again in the GOP. The Republican coalition of 1994 totally fell apart. That’s why Obama won.
Waiting on Indy & peoples republik of Bloomington. don’t get yer hopes up.
If we had a conservative nominee it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. I don’t blame others for McCain failures.
LLS
Nader wasn’t on the ballot here in NC; all we had were Obama, McCain, and Barr. No Nader, no Baldwin. It is extremely hard for a third-party candidate to get on the ballot in North Carolina.
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The people wanted Bush out so they voted for 0bama who was furthest from him. I really think McCain would have been 4 more years of the same.
Nitpicking English, but it makes a big differentce in what you are trying to say.
I abhor their acts of political stupidity, pettiness and immature and myopic belligerence.
I was here when, during the 2000 pre- and post-election, we were rehashing the debacle of conservatives voting for Ross Perot.
I was here hashing it out with the Party of One crowd again this time around, speaking sense to their senseless blather about “principles,” which “principles” have now help deliver our country to a Marxist and one of the most pro-death presidents ever.
Some of the same people were claiming they had no personal responsibility whatsoever for the impact of their vote on the outcome of the election, and, therefore, on the nation. It was always someone else’s fault-—”the RNC/GOP/MSM/cross-over voting/primary timing didn’t give me a candidate I like, so it’s not my fault if my failure to vote for him helps elect the other guy.”
Idiots.
Worse than idiots. Dangerous and destructive. No better than Euroweenies pursuing some type of coalition government, rather than understanding the American system is, in fact, a winner-takes-all system.
Bush won Indiana in 2004 by 20 points and McCain lost Indiana by less than a point in 2008.
Indiana swung 20 points to the Democrats in just four years.
That was not Bob Barr’s fault.
I admit that I don’t know who McCain would’ve nominated for the Supreme Court and other judicial positions, but I do know that such votes gave Obama free reign (deliberate misspelling) to put liberal activists in charge of the entire structure of our judicial system for generations to come. Perhaps the third party voters will figure this out when the right to bear arms is abolished, as well as all of the other rights that depended on the Second Amendment for support.
The point is that anyone who wasted their vote on anything but voting for the only candidate who had a viable chance of defeating Obama is a selfish and immature nitwit.
Votes belong to nobody but the individual. They must be EARNED. If the Republicans wanted these votes they should not have had McCain as their candidate. A would-be leader has to take full responsibility for not winning. I believe if McCain had stood up against the bail-out he might have won, or done better. He looked bad when he made ear marks his issue and then went along with the bail out which was loaded with them. Even if he voted for the first version, he could have stood up against the second one on grounds of the ear marks - could have had his cake and eaten it too.
If we are to believe the polls, Survey USA had McCain up by 20 points in NC before the market meltdown.
After that, it was all down hill, plain and simple.
(it still makes me sick)
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As I said, I’m not criticizing Barr or anyone (at least on this thread). I found this information interesting and hadn’t seen it before, and just passing along some election results that were new to me.
LLS
Point understood. However, third parties were not a factor this time around, except for perhaps the Senate race in Minnesota.
You’re assuming all Barr votes would go to McCain. I don’t think you can make that assuption.
Some number would likely go to McCain; some would likely go to Obama. A larger number would probably undervote or stay home.
All in all, it’s not much more than a wash.
If someone with the personality of Bob Barr has taken votes from you, you really should have never run.
Yep. That was the payoff they explained to me over and over again. At least, they would say, “they were going to feel about their vote.”
Idiots.
A vote is not about feeling good. It’s about doing what’s best for the country, given the viable alternatives, no matter how “bad” it may feel personally.
But even if it were about “feeling good”: I feel good about voting for the only candidate who could have defeated the Marxist. I did the right thing and I’m proud of it. I didn’t shrink from the fight because I somehow couldn’t bring myself to lift a finger to DEFEAT OBAMA.
And they have the gall to show their face around here and complain about how bad Obama is?
If you didn’t vote against Obama, by voting for McCain, then STHU.
If I’m not making myself clear here, freepmail me and I’ll explain in greater detail what I really think of people who waste their vote and, thus, turn the country over to, say, Bill Clinton and then the Marxist.
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