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Posted on 11/10/2008 11:07:04 AM PST by saganite

Scientific documentation and ramifications of global cooling from both human as well as natural causes.

Proponents of this view of "global cooling" claim is that the world is not warming as often alleged, but it has in fact been cooling recently.

For example, on October 31, 2008, Bob Tisdale commented:

"If the Antarctic is getting warmer, as claimed, than why has the ice cover there increased by far more than that 'lost' at the arctic? 

If the arctic is loosing ice at an 'increasing rate', than why has this year seen record early ice formation and record extent? 

If the earth is getting warmer, than why have record low temperatures and record early snowfalls been occurring across the Northern hemisphere this year (and temperatures becoming lower for the last 5 years)?" We must bear in mind that natural cycles go up and down like a saw-tooth. Though we might be on a short-term downward trend, the more important question or issue is where the longer-term trend is headed.

In bringing attention to this "cooling" camp of thought, we at PES Network do not intend to imply that the need for renewable energy solutions is any less significant. There are an abundant number of good reasons to go renewable, not just to avert "global warming."


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KEYWORDS: globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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To: saganite

bflr


21 posted on 11/10/2008 1:14:29 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: the_Watchman

Heat island effect countering natural cooling.


22 posted on 11/10/2008 1:17:00 PM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Little Pig
While I will not doubt your reasoning that warmer air can possibly hold more moisture the recorded temperatures do not show warmimg but instead show alarming cooling except for the peninsula. Temperatures for the last year are as much as 30°F below normal. With temperatures that cold every drop of moisture is squeezed out of the air and deposited on already growing glaciers. Those growing glaciers mover under their own weight and flow into the ocean cooling it. This cooling of the southern oceans will have an effect on the rest of the world.

For a long time I have not worried about the current solar minimum. It happens every eleven years, but this one has gone on a year longer than normal. There was a small sunspot a few days ago that looked like it was high enough in the upper hemisphere to be a sunspot for a new cycle, no one knows. If the sunspots don't get back to normal soon I am afraid that we will be worrying about dramatically lower temperatures. In the 1820’s when this happen there were frosts in July and August in NY. If we don't have a growing season we won't be able to feed ourselves. I'm afraid that cold is much worse than hot.

23 posted on 11/10/2008 1:56:28 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: JAKraig

“...I’m afraid that cold is much worse than hot...”

Of course it is! There are benefits to warming, such as longer growing seasons, areas now too cold for crops would be usable, etc.

Look for folks to scream about the cold this winter. It looks like it will be a brutal one.


24 posted on 11/10/2008 2:31:23 PM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: unique_geek
Bottom line... the earth goes in cycles.

It's not the earth, it's the SUN. 1995 to 1998 were the last three years of a solar maximum, in the middle of a sunspot cycle. We're now in a time between sunspot cycles. The old one has finished, but the new one is relatively weak, so the longer it's weak, the less warming happens on earth.

Folks who actually do SCIENCE are predicting a solar minimum around 2030, that may even rival the Maunder and Dalton minimums, which created mini ice ages in the Middle ages and the late 18th and early 19th centuries. Remember Valley Forge,the ice on the Delaware that Washington had to go through on Christmas Morning to surprise the Hessians, and Londoners skating on the Thames?

25 posted on 11/10/2008 6:47:06 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: JAKraig
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26 posted on 11/10/2008 6:52:17 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Islander7

Look for folks to scream about the cold this winter. It looks like it will be a brutal one.

According to the Farmer’s Almanac it will be a brutal winter for the US except for the Southeast. I’m glad to be a current resident of the Southeast. ;^)


27 posted on 11/10/2008 6:59:18 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: JAKraig

If we don’t have a growing season we won’t be able to feed ourselves

There was another post today with the news that corn and soybean harvests are underperforming this year. The reason? Late spring planting and a cooler than normal winter.


28 posted on 11/10/2008 7:39:26 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: SuziQ

Thanks!
The earth does go in cycles, its just cycles caused by the sun. I guess I should have expounded more on that. ;)


29 posted on 11/11/2008 5:28:16 AM PST by unique_geek
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To: unique_geek

The earth goes in cycles is exactly right. How do we reverse or put a stop to the global warming hoax? Seems like it is full steam ahead.

The libs are so extreme. Where have they been before this, throwing garbage out their windows?

—The save a watt generation...: )


30 posted on 11/17/2008 12:23:41 PM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: unique_geek

The earth goes in cycles is exactly right. How do we reverse or put a stop to the global warming hoax? Seems like it is full steam ahead.

The libs are so extreme. Where have they been before this, throwing garbage out their windows?

—The save a watt generation...: )


31 posted on 11/17/2008 12:23:50 PM PST by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: mlocher

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32 posted on 12/09/2008 3:12:28 PM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember the 26th of November.)
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