Kathleen Sebelius waiting to pounce? [Lead Dept. of Health and Human Services]?

AmericanPapist.com ^ | November 7, 2008 | Thomas Peters

[Salvation]

Kathleen Sebelius waiting to pounce?

Rocco reports that extreme pro-abortion advocate (and Catholic) Kathleen Sebelius, governor of Kansas (previous AmP mentions here) ... is being considered to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees such things as abortion, and who would be tasked with shepherding FOCA through Congress.

Even if she is not picked to lead that department, it is highly likely she will be offered some prominent position in Obama's cabinet. She was, after all, one of his early, vocal supporters, and has tirelessly supported him since.

A local columnist isn't happy about this development, saying "[Sebelius] appears poised to skip out of the job she was elected to do in Kansas. If that happens, she won't be around to deal with Kansas' huge and looming budget challenges in 2009."

Good thinking, Kathleen, have someone else deal with the mess.

When asked about the rumors, she responded, "I'm always flattered to have my name in circulation".

... Such humility.

[incredulous joe]

my thoughts are is that she should be promptly excommunicated if she dare participate in the destruction of human life.

I don't know?

I really thought that the bishops brought their A-game to this election. They were on message and the message was delivered. The folks in the pews (or more likely Catholics who do NOT attend) did not take their guidance to heart.

It might seem crass, but maybe it would just take the laity to "lobby" our Church leaders to move in that direction? Certainly, I think that there are those who would excommunicate her. I used to feel otherwise, but I think that it's time we begin to move in that direction.

Go Roman!

[incredulous joe]

I am a law and order guy, but....

It seems to me that on some issues, such as homosexual marriage, in blue states, that the states seem to defy the Federal law.

Is it time that individual states with pro-life interest simply push their own agenda and see what the Federal government will do?

I don’t suppose there are too many states that would be inclined and it would probably only take loss of funding for a road to make people think otherwise, unfortunately, but maybe it’s time for someone to claim state’s rights.

[RGPII]

I’m going to start thinking about how to write a letter and to whom, the Vatican, Bishops, etc. to encourage that these deadbeat politicians have measures taken against them such as excommunication.

Sure, any of these politicians like Biden are not really receiving a worthy communion, being in a state of sin. Might as well, make it a concrete action.

[incredulous joe]

Yeah, I have never done that myself.

I've always just kind of thought, well, the bishops get together and they talk about this stuff. They've dedicated their lives to their work and probably know better than I do.

Their approach does NOT work.

Obviously, something more ~ and diffent ~ needs to be done We need to push back. Let's work Slow Joe first. He's in a good Diocese for it, though I couldn't say that he actually goes to church?

Bishop W. Francis Malooly P.O. Box 2030, Wilmington, DE 19899

By the way, Malooly is one of the "good guys". Be nice.

[Nextrush]

A woman bought and paid for by a notorious late-term abortionist named Dr. George Tiller in Wichita.

This would be a coup for evil.

[ethics]

Sebilius will no longer be Governor of Kansas1

I am not sure who here successor will be but he/she will probably be a Democrat. Hopefully, the people in Kansas will elect a Pro Life Governor the next time around. May, Sam Brownback.

Sebilius will bring the culture of death in Health and Human Services!

[DiogenesLaertius]

Lets hope she stays there. She is the top democratic contender for brownback’s senate seat when he retires in 2010.

[SumProVita]

She’s already excommunicated herself. The way things are going, I FULLY expect some bishops to begin making public statements of excommunication.

FOCA is a demonic piece of legislation.

[mimaw]

If the Holy Father doesn't take some public action against those very vocal high profile Roman Catholics such as the politicians and people like Doug Kemic that advocated the election of a pro abort presidential candidate the Catholic church will eventually stand for about as much as the Unitarian Universalists do. There were also too many priests and bishops MIA. Abortions were coming down and yes I believe a bit of a stigma against this hideous practice was beginning to develop. All the progress will be reversed after 4 or 8 years of this regime. One of Obamas first actions will be canceling Bush executive pro life orders. I'd rather belong to a smaller denomination that stood for the sanctity of life than one that blurs the issue.

[proudmilitarymrs]

I’m going to leave the judging up to God.

May he have mercy on our souls.

mrs

[incredulous joe]

This would be a coup for evil,... And the horde of Moeleck.

[Desdemona]

For some issues, amazingly enough, outcry from the pews does spur action. Twenty-some years ago it happened in my own parish with a different issue, but the end result was the archbishop sat in on an intervention that ended in a priest being laicized. He later died of an alcohol induced brain hemorrhage, if that tells you anything. Then when the people of the parish divided, took sides and an all out war started because about 10 people knew what actually happened, the archbishop was contacted again and the pastor was forced to actually explain. So, it can work.

Where I am worried about this approach here is that there is this notion among the hierarchy that excommunication has been so overused in the past (we're talking 400-500 years ago) that they are really hesitant to use it. That needs to stop. This is a different issue in a different time and not doing it makes them look timid, afraid, weak, etc., and in this atmosphere that's deadly for their message.

[pray4liberty]

Better they be excommunicated and given the chance to repent, than burn in Hell forever.

These politically correct Bishops who refuse to do their job will answer to Christ. Being a true shepherd means using the rod against the sheep when it is necessary.

May the wrath of God and the blood of the slaughtered innocents be on every politician's head who votes for FOCA. God is patient and long-suffering, but He's not a fool, and our Congress seems to think He is.

[SuziQ]

I really thought that the bishops brought their A-game to this election. They were on message and the message was delivered. The folks in the pews (or more likely Catholics who do NOT attend) did not take their guidance to heart.

The Bishops did a WONDERFUL job this year, arguing for the life issues. Unfortunately, for many this year, including, sadly, many Catholics, the economy took precedence. Many people were convinced that all of our economic woes were caused by the 8 years of President Bush. Never mind that the seeds of the mortgage crisis were sown by Carter in the late 70's, and that the deregulation pushed by Clinton (there was NO deregulation done under President Bush) made it easier for the questionable mortgages to be pawned off on Investment groups. Also, with Congress creating Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, it was made easier to 'privatize the profit, and socialize the risk', and that's what made folks like Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelick, and other big Dems, their fortunes. By increasing the mortgages insured, then sold, by those groups, they made money because the more mortgages sold, the bigger bonuses for the folks running the organizations.

Unfortunately, the Republicans didn't get that message out to the voters, and the Democrats capitalized on the soundbites, the repetition of which were trumpeted by the MSM, including "the worst economy in 50 years" , "maybe another Great Depression", "8 years of Bush have ruined the economy".

It was 'kitchen table' issues, and the non-existent rebuttals that cost the Republicans this election. Folks were thinking of their own families' welfare this year. They didn't give much of a thought to the ruin of the social fabric of this country that would be brought by unfettered Democrat policies.

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