Posted on 11/09/2008 8:12:57 PM PST by BigJohn44
After a presidential campaign in which it was widely perceived that the dominant message from the bishops was that Catholics were morally obliged not to vote for a candidate supporting abortion rights, exit polls show that Catholics voted 52 percent to 45 percent for Senator Barack Obama.
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Until the Bishops take strong, decisive action against the weenies who have hijacked the Catholic Church, including excommunications and firing priests (such as mine) who blatantly violate the catechism and the directives of the Pope, I AM DONE contributing.
Many weenie, leftie priests either advocate for abortion maximizers like Obama or fail to condemn abortion.
Conservative catholics are generally the heaviest contributors. Until we turn off this spigot, which feeds those who would undermine us (e.g., the "peace and justice" lefties who call themselves Catholics), the church will continue to support leftist candidates.
I am tired of politicians like John Kerry and Joe Biden pandering to Catholic voters when they have no intention of upholding the values of the church.
Just like the GOP needs to be purged of RINOs, so does the Catholic Church need a good housecleaning.
I would urge Catholic freepers to send a strong message and withhold contributions until the Church shows it will change.
Give your money to a conservative religious order (there are a lot of great contemplative orders that could stand a few bucks) or to a crisis pregnancy center.
The bishops have not taught anybody anything for 40+ years. In fact, I would suspect that many of the priests in my diocese probably voted for Obama, even though the people probably did not, and our bishop actually made a strong statement opposing him. But the Church is suffering from a collapse of authority, and the failure of the bishops to teach, to correct, to discipline is definitely coming home to roost.
Catholic Charities which is supported by the Bishop’s Annual appeal is the source of Monies for the ACORN project which was involved in voter registration!
My rule of thumb in Charitable giving is to give to organization where the monies are sent to the people in need, e.g., Haiti Missions, and Missionaries of the Poor in Jamaica.
I avoid giving monies to diocese that are redirected in ways that you will never know or understand. The diocese are not completely transparent in the disbursement of monies! The Archbishop does what he pleases and answers to nobody.
Same crooked organization that supports millions of illegals.
I think it was the so called “Campaign for Human Development” that gave money to the acorn group....I don’t know if this collection still exists by itself; frankly we haven’t been to church except for weddings in a year at least...I am going to be one of those people that crash the church services on Christmas and Easter taking up all the seat for the regular church goers.....
...OR give to those dioceses where the bishops DO take strong stands against abortion. ;-)
Good for you, I hope millions follow your lead!
Just remember to donate it to another Christian organization. There are still plenty of them around, or so I understand.
JoMa
Although I agree with you in principle (as one who hasn’t given in most second collections for years), I see you responding in this manner to yet another media hit piece.
I’m very offended by this obviously anti Catholic drivel.
Holding on to your money doesn’t really send a message unless you explain to the pastor WHY you are withholding money. It’s too easy to assume it is because of the economy unless they know in no uncertain terms.
If your priest is one of those happy-clappy “spirit of Vatican 2” types, don’t be afraid to tell him where to get off. Find a conservative parish if possible, and support that church completely. Write your bishop, be a pain in the ass and encourage others to do the same.
The squeaky wheel get the grease.
The CHD collections are coming up, last couple weeks of Novemeber. First Things had an article by Fr. Neuhaus stating that these monies go to non-Catholic organizations, some doing work opposed to Church teachings. He states that CHD used to be “Catholic CHD” but has dropped the Catholic, and that some bishops do not permit the collection in their dioceses. However, when I google CHD, it comes up as “Catholic CHD” under the umbrella of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. The website has nothing specific about where the monies are spent, which seems dubious to me.
I attended a Parochial school and was quite the Church supporter.
Then, many, many years ago, I got slapped in the face that the lefties had taken over - and this long before the horrible facts on the homosexual pedophile clergy disaster and coverup.
I walked away and haven't looked back. (Mark 6:11) Maybe it's time for you to look further afield.
I reread my post, and I might not have made myself clear. You didn’t write anything anti Catholic - I was referring to the NYT hit piece.
The church needs to stand firm on something. Otherwise it will cave to the Pelosi's, Kennedy's, and Kerry's money. Someone should demand an accounting for how the money is spent and why it went for what it paid for.
CCHD and Catholic Charities aren't the same thing. CCHD is not supported by your bishop, and there's usually a single collection for it taken up at some point during the year, one in which I make it a point not to contribute a dime.
I’m with you. I want to see Kennedy, Kerry, Biden and Pelosi called out in public, and tossed aside.
The Catholic Church should empty it’s registrars and make everyone who wants to be Catholic sign up and choose their faith.
Something like this.
That’s why Evangelicals were stronger in their vote because they have to actively choose their denominations.
Not only did we have CINOs: Catholics in name only but probably a number of CWNG, Catholics who never go to Mass.
Follow the teachings of the Church or be booted out. Be compassionate but firm.
I think in some ways, this would cause a revenue problem but that may have remedies as well.
My elderly Catholic mother voted for Obama. I asked her how, as a Catholic, she could support Obama. I told her about his voting record in the Illinois legislature, voting three times against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. She didn’t know anything about Obama’s stand on abortion. Apparently the Church isn’t saying much about it. I don’t go to church anymore, so I didn’t know they were so silent on the issue. The Black churches in Chicago preach politics from the pulpit. I don’t know why the Catholic Church doesn’t do the same.
They ain’t gettin’ another dime from me, that’s for sure.
And if anyone dares ask why I’m telling them exactly why, too.
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