Posted on 11/09/2008 12:32:02 PM PST by nomad
As the implications of this election have sunk in and the future has, in so many ways, become so uncertain,many have suggested ways to fight back. One, an initial reaction to the confiscatory tax policies of the new regime, was to scale back where possible.Rush Limbaugh even mentioned that he was selling a long held and cherished condo in New York in response to their impending tax hikes. But there has been no organized approach to this "tightening of our conservative belts". I propose a new freep, call it "Operation Thrift".
Operation Thrift will have several goals, first and foremost is to promote frugality were ever possible so as to allow us to save money for better purposes. Second is to legaly protest the coming socialistic and eco-radical confiscatory tax policies and thereby deny them their lifes blood, our money. And third is to provide an avenue for consumer angst and protest against high taxes, and prices. As an important offshoot, it will also help to keep the economy down, denying the socialists the funds to implement their agenda, and allowing for a growing disillusionment by the moocher base that supported this regime. Minie the moocher won`t get her "free gas and rent".
The first goal of frugality is a reasonable, and many would say, extremely prudent move in any time of economic pressure.It will allow us to concentrate on getting our personal economic houses in order. To pay down debt, squirrel away funds for emegencies, maybe purchase some precious metals with it, or use these funds to purchase and stock pile essentiales such as food, fuel and other desirables, you choose the uses. I know there are other things other freepers can add to this and the other lists, but one place to start cutting back is with Christmas shopping, try buying used or off the internet.Look for sales and haggle where possible. Also, think hard about whether you REALLY need this thing or can you make do without? Cut back on cable or cell phones, do you really need IM or on the go internet? Can you do without a second phone line at home, or voicemail? Answering machines still work well enough and can be bought cheaply at yard sales, thats where mine came from. Do you really have to go out for a meal or can you cook at home more cheaply? And what about preprepared foods, can you save money by cooking it yourself? Don`t buy carry out either, try buying a lunch box, my coleman is from a yard sale, and save on the burger. Boycott hollywood as much as possible, to hell with those leftists. The catch phrase we need to use is, "Whats the minimum I need,and how do I get it cheaply".
The second goal of protesting taxes is a bit more complicated and a more tax astute freeper`s input is needed, but I`ve heard a few good ones already, changing one`s number of allowances on tax withholdings so as to owe at the end of the year will allow us to keep our funds in our hands longer and deny the socialists its use for the maximum amount of time. We can look into buying things that will allow use to avoid the coming eco-taxes, catalytic wood/coal stoves are a good source of winter heat thats difficult to detect by smell or smoke, some cities in Cali ban stove use at times. The fuel can come from any source of untreated wood, including pallets or even peat bales, just know that the catalytic converter burns out faster with lower grade fuel. In many areas of the country a well can still be drilled using a gasoline power head and drill pipe, power heads can be rented in most areas and with a few friends to help and split the expenses, you can all have wells to water your grass, victory gardens(to grow your own fresh veggies), wash the car, or what ever. Not only will the local water company not be able to charge for the water, but the sewage costs as well. BTW, I`ve heard water is next eco-whipping post, so beware. Some of the small business owners have said that they intend to cut back to stay under the, for now at least, magic $250,000 number at which you become, "The evil rich", maybe we can make up lists of Conservative owned businesses in our local area and shop as much as possible there to show our support and help keep them afloat. If I`ve over looked anything please feel free to add to the list.
Third on the list is keeping up th pressure on the leftists and holding them accountable for their actions. I read a suggestion that we need a grassroots action center that will act like a conservative version of the socialist`s moveon. Well when this site went down yesterday, I went surfing and on http://dogpile.com using the key words, conservative blogs, I was able to find the following site still under construction http://modernconservative.com/metablog_single.php?p=2206 and they are currently recruiting for conservative activists in a host of fields from web site design to legal. Maybe we can look into them, they`re stated goal is get a network going in all 50 states. We need to look into the ramifications of any "Fairness Doctrine" http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama_appoints_radical_media_activist.html and its impact on sites like Freerepublic, question:If they do try to shut us up,can we go private to stop them,or would that be a deadend? Reason I ask is there are a few groups out there that limit posting privileges to paying members, would that help? Communication will be the key to keeping the heat on the rats in power now and maybe a moderator can ask Mr. Robinson to consider a loose alliance of sites and blogs. I know many say the current economic mess will only be blamed on Bush, I disagree, we`ve seen the attention span that seems to be the norm in the popculture obsessed, "I want it now" sheeple that tended to vote this socialist in, it won`t be long before they tire of the economy and turn on "the one", the recent stock drops http://cnbcdoom.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama_market_collapse_day_two.html are simply to coincidental for even the sheeple or the Laim Stream Media who drive them ignore for long. If we agitate enough while rebuilding our conservative base, while at the same time helping to starve the socialists of funds to implement their agenda we may be able to rescue the crisis before they can gain a permanantly fatal foothold in our economy, at least the continued economic crisis will buy us time to rebuild for a counter attack in 2010 with a slate of new and hopefully truly conservative faces. As this is just a rough draft I`m sure I`ve overlooked things, so once again please feel free to add.
I would avoid all "charities" that are national 501c3s with chapter offices. Having worked for a few, they are really corporations that don't pay taxes.
I hope you’re a good swimmer.
Prosperity should favor Republicans, which is why we lost.
Explain Reagan’s victory in 1980.
national security
I remember the TV ads, and that’s what I voted for.
but my point was, I’m not sure if tanking the economy makes it even easier for a socialist to pretend like he’s coming to the rescue
a weakened country is not one with as many options
RE: “Quit doing business with anyone who voted for this fool, the beautician, the barber, the local hardware store, etc.”
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Agree — to the extent possible, avoid the Obamabots and keep spending WAY down — Atlas Shrugs.........
Actually, we do have something of a life boat. You can store your wealth someplace where the government can't find it and seize it.
Maybe it's your three year supply of MRE's, ammunition that you can sell blackmarket after the gun ban, maybe even a nice little Kruggerand or two.
If you are going to do any end of year stock selling for tax purposes anyway, that will reduce your paper income and offset some dividend income, and result in a decrease in tax revenue available to be spent on the 0bomunists.
Ok, I’m with you so far . . . but how can we make certain we are buying our MRE’s, ammo, other essentials, etc. from people who did not vote for Obama? Do you see what I’m driving at, here?
I was thinking of expanding my business shortly...but now think I will coast for 4 years. The FedGov is already talking about confiscating my IRAs, not sure I want them confiscating anything else. I’m in hunker down mode.
My ideas:
Drive 5 MPH slower than the posted limit.
Never spend more than $20 to gas up.
No charitable donations of any sort.
Under-withhold taxes by increasing exemptions.
Have a non-commercial Christmas.
Boycot CNN and MSNBC and their sponsors.
Gripe in writing about Blitzer, Olberman, and Chris Mathews.
Cancel subscriptions to newspapers and magazines.
Minimalize phone services. Drop cellular where possible.
Buy ammunition and guns. Figure out how to get involved in firearms as a cottage industry.
I remember Reagan running national security ads also, but if you don’t remember the economy stuff he ran, then our discussion is over.
There are no sure things in life, but I’d be willing to bet that very few people who sell MRE’s, ammunition, and gold voted for 0.
How do I jest?I think that even with cuts in capital gains and other taxes we`d still be in for a long and tough time to come.These socialists are going to tank the economy whether you help them or not.Its a prudent move to get your finances in order for a long ride. I`m old enough, just a kid though,to remember the Carter administration and the stagflation that plagued America till after Reagan took over.
I am also cutting on charitable donations except for the Boy Scouts, and maybe buying girl scout cookies from people I know are not Obomatrons (i.e., my neighbor's kids). It breaks my heart in a way because I have been pretty supportive of my local parish, but after hearing that something like over 50% of my fellow Catholics voted for Obortion, it's hard to feel any sense of loyalty.
I agree. Starve the beast. Crash the system. Get out of it what you can, and keep your money out of it's hands. Liberals crave taking other peoples' money almost as much as they crave abortion. Don't let them have any more of your money than you can possibly keep out of their grubby, stinking hands.
Don’t know if this fits in this thread, but through the years I’ve always bought American Cars, anything American to keep Americans working, but now I feel that these union members socked it to me big time after all the years I was watching out for them. My husband and I, and two of our kids will never buy another American car again.
It’s bad enough that my 401K is worth half of its previous worth, and as long as I’m working, I can’t pull it out of the company plan. So my choice is keep working so that we can live decently, or quit working to get my hands on my money and take a hit in taxes.
Ping.
We’ve taken similar positions. Our donation dollars now go to our church and to the Salvation Army (and only because of a long family history and incredible personal kindness by the organization to my mother...long story, but honest sentiment).
In fact, I received my first phone call yesterday from an organization wanting money to send underprivileged, minority children to a circus. I politely told the caller that if she wants money, they should ask the President Elect as he will soon be in charge of all funds and hung up.
Rough ol’ world - time to take care of me and mine and those aligned with us.
If that sounds cynical, it’s not, it’s simply a protective device.
How much are you willing to bet? And will you include their employees?
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