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Analysts: McCain doomed from start
UPI ^

Posted on 11/09/2008 11:36:20 AM PST by WilliamReading

PHOENIX, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- Republican U.S. Sen. John McCain lost his bid for the White House mainly because anti-incumbent fury doomed him from the start, analysts say.

McCain made many missteps, but they didn't matter much because it was clear no Republican stood much of a chance in the 2008 election with voters overwhelmingly blaming President George Bush and the GOP for the nation's problems, The Arizona Republic reported Sunday.

McCain, who represents Arizona in the Senate, lost to Democratic opponent Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois last week in an electoral college landslide. He never stood a realistic chance, said Alberto Gutier, a longtime Phoenix Republican activist and McCain supporter.

"Everything was going to go the wrong way for the Republicans, in general, because of the negatives that President Bush had," he said. "When you combine the war, the economy, the gas prices -- it's a hell of a thing."

"Our polls and national polls showed that most people by a 2-to-1 margin blamed Bush and the Republicans more than the Democrats for getting us into the mess, and they believed that Obama was more likely to get us out of it," Bruce Merrill, a veteran Arizona pollster, told the Republic.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2008; bho2008; doomed; issues; mccain; postmortem
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To: misterrob; Diogenesis

Have to agree with misterrob. I’m not Mormon and never supported Romney, but the inflammatory anti-Mormon post from Diogenesis is bigoted horse manure.


41 posted on 11/09/2008 11:51:22 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: WilliamReading
Before I will agree with this, I will require a plausable explanation as to why the electorate could not have been swayed if the media AND McCain had done their jobs. When Obama and Biden could say anything and do anything no matter how stupid and get a free pass, that is the agenda of the media.

When clowns like Brokaw can say to Charlie Rose: We don't know anything about this guy while "this guy" has a history that can be reviewed, THAT is what made it inevitable.

When you can have a candidate like McCain, who ran for ten years for an office he didn't really want, THAT made it inevitable.

The only thing fated is what happens. What will happen isn't yet fate.

42 posted on 11/09/2008 11:51:49 AM PST by stevem
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To: WilliamReading
lost to Democratic opponent Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois last week in an electoral college landslide.

Someone is full of it.

The electoral college doesn't even MEET to vote until December 15th.

43 posted on 11/09/2008 11:51:51 AM PST by MamaTexan (* I am not an administrative, political, legal, corporate or collective entity *)
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To: ccmay

I don’t like innocent people attacked, do you?

I don’t like children attacked, do you?


44 posted on 11/09/2008 11:52:26 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: I see my hands
Coward Under Fire

Infair to a true hero.

45 posted on 11/09/2008 11:53:16 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Jeff Chandler
A tough but nimble Republican campaign would have IMMEDIATELY lain the blame on Obama’s door step. What McCain did, however, was to join the Democrats in blaming capitalism itself”

Yup.
McCain will always be McCain. He always has to be the prima donna, and the “maverick”
With only a few weeks to an election, and given a great opportunity to close the deal, he turns round instead, and blames capitalism itself, instead of laying the blame squarely where it belonged: on the doorstep of Obama and the Dims who forced banks to make mortgage loans to people who couldn't afford to pay back.

46 posted on 11/09/2008 11:54:16 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Jeff Chandler
A tough but nimble Republican campaign would have IMMEDIATELY lain the blame on Obama's door step. What McCain did, however, was to join the Democrats in blaming capitalism itself.

Well Obama doesn't have enough time on the job to be personally blamed. But not his party. McCain should have forcefully pointed out that the problems where caused by laws put in place during the Carter and Clinton administrations. Might not have worked, people have trouble tracing cause and effect back more than a few years. But it would have been better than voting for an even worse law that will bite us in the buttocks down the road. Maybe not all that far down the road either, as it put more power, lots more power, in most socialist administration and Congress at least since FDR, and arguably ever.

47 posted on 11/09/2008 11:55:25 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: bilhosty

Source????


48 posted on 11/09/2008 11:55:32 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: WilliamReading

Who best to analyze why McCain was doomed from the start than the people who engineered his nomination?


49 posted on 11/09/2008 11:55:37 AM PST by hflynn ( The One is really The Number Two)
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To: WilliamReading
I think McCain could've, should've talked about the part that Democrats played in the mortgage mess and gas prices.

Bush has done things I don't like BUT he wasn't responsible for Freddie and Fannie --and now we have the same people who engineered the mess supposedly making corrections?! --with taxpayer $$$$.

That's what makes me really mad---the Dems cause all kinds of problems and the Repubs turn over and play dead!

Why didn't McCain run against the Dems in Congress who have a lower approval rating than Bush? Oh, I forgot---he's one of them!!!

50 posted on 11/09/2008 11:55:38 AM PST by lonestar
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To: Jeff Chandler

i agree with you. there were many winning issues for republicans but
neither bush or cheney rarely defended themselves and let dems
set the agenda. zero, zero leadership. bush apparently could
not bring himself to engage in pr.


51 posted on 11/09/2008 11:56:18 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: lonestar

Oh hellz to the no. It was not Bush’s fault.

The media messiah....and RACE determined this election.

RACE. The only reason.

If BO wasnt black, he would not even been a contender. Let’s get real.

It’s a race thing.

So we have a Marxist...hey, at least he is black and white guilt can be put to rest.

RACE = determining factor

period


52 posted on 11/09/2008 11:57:48 AM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: WilliamReading
Next time you get a chance, look at your IRA. On second thought, better not.

Real informative reply try this and learn something.http://blog.policymap.com/?p=256

53 posted on 11/09/2008 11:59:26 AM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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To: WilliamReading

Academia, the unions, Hollywood and the MSM all campaignining (free) for Obama didn’t help either.


54 posted on 11/09/2008 11:59:55 AM PST by umgud (In a crisis, dump gold, buy lead)
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To: org.whodat

http://blog.policymap.com/?p=256


55 posted on 11/09/2008 12:00:07 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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56 posted on 11/09/2008 12:00:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: WilliamReading

We lost because of the economy — the “undecideds” and “independents” voted their short-term pocketbook interests.

We lost because America continues “Slouching Towards Gomorrah”.

We lost because we nominated McCain.


57 posted on 11/09/2008 12:00:27 PM PST by AngrySpud (Sarah Palin, my sister in Christ.)
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To: Perdogg
The election was over on 09/15/08.

While true, it was the final straw in the wind of the perfect storm. There were lots of other factors, no one of which was The One reason we got The One. Not the least of these was a media in the tank for The one. That's really hard to overcome, since a great communicator like Ronald Reagan, who is also conservative, doesn't come along more than once in a few generations.

58 posted on 11/09/2008 12:00:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: WilliamReading
no Republican stood much of a chance in the 2008 election with voters overwhelmingly blaming President George Bush and the GOP for the nation's problems

The problem is with the preception.

The corrected version should be:
no Republican [from inside the beltway] stood much of a chance in the 2008 election with voters overwhelmingly blaming President George Bush and the GOP for the nation's problems
That is precisely why Senators should not be presidential candidates.


59 posted on 11/09/2008 12:01:17 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: WilliamReading

Corrected the link in post #55


60 posted on 11/09/2008 12:01:29 PM PST by org.whodat ( "the Whipped Dog Party" , what was formally the republicans.)
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