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Where Tuesday's Tide Was All Republican (Oklahoma Turns Redder Alert)
New York Times ^ | 11/7/2008 | James McKinley, Jr

Posted on 11/07/2008 9:30:12 PM PST by goldstategop

Among Oklahomans, Mr. Cook and Mr. White are hardly alone. Though the state’s Democrats still outnumber its Republicans, you would never know it by looking at the election results. Oklahoma voters went for Senator John McCain by almost two to one, bucking the tide that swept Mr. Obama to the presidency. Not a single one of the state’s 77 counties backed Mr. Obama, despite his endorsement by the popular Democratic governor, Brad Henry. ...

Indeed, the state has a political landscape closely resembling that of the old solidly Democratic South, especially in its southeastern corner, known as Little Dixie, where many Southerners settled after the Civil War. When conservatives of the Old South began abandoning the party decades ago, Oklahoma’s Democrats lagged behind the historical trend. Further, the state has relatively small black and Hispanic populations, and so the Democrats did not absorb as many new voters from those groups as in the states of the old Confederacy.

These days Oklahoma Democrats dread running for local office in presidential election years, for fear of being associated with liberal nominees at the top of the ticket.

“Being liberal in Oklahoma, with the exception of a few legislative districts, will not get you elected,” said State Representative Joe Dorman, a conservative Democrat.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 2008election; buckingthetide; conservatism; ok2008; oklahoma; redstate; republicanparty
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To: eyedigress
THIS is a Red state:

and this...


41 posted on 11/07/2008 10:04:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ponygirl

“I think it’s safe to say that McCain has NO CHANCE for reelection in Arizona 2010. It won’t matter if Satan himself is running against him. His opponent was the antichrist and McCain only got 53% in AZ. Both Obama and Palin won 61+% in their respective home states”

*******

That’s what McCain gets for being the Chief Priest of Amnesty.
53% is just pathetic.


42 posted on 11/07/2008 10:04:09 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: goldstategop; PhiKapMom

Can I move to Oklahoma?


43 posted on 11/07/2008 10:08:45 PM PST by Perdogg (01-20-2013)
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To: SmokingJoe

Worse is that even with McCain running in his own state, the House delegation moved to MAJORITY Democrat (5D-3R) for the first time in 44 years (6 years ago, there was only ONE Democrat in the entire delegation). Contrast that with Bob Dole running in Kansas in 1996 and he kept the entire federal delegation Republican, including a new Conservative that won in a notoriously RINO district.


44 posted on 11/07/2008 10:10:03 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Perdogg

You gotta be a member of the Civilized Tribes. ;-)


45 posted on 11/07/2008 10:10:46 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan
...we don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee...

...the kids here still respect the college dean...

46 posted on 11/07/2008 10:10:49 PM PST by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Okies are so racist that they elected a black Republican congressman (J.C. Watts) who served four terms. Oh, wait he’s a Republican. He’s not really black. The Dems would just toss Oreos at him like they did to Michael Steele.


47 posted on 11/07/2008 10:12:19 PM PST by hout8475
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To: stillonaroll

You mean they’re all like Omega House ? That’s no fun. ;-D


48 posted on 11/07/2008 10:12:23 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yep.

Dude look at CO. The swing in the deep red counties was amazing. Tells me one thing: while McCain was conservative enough for me he wasn’t for CO.

Now NV has me SCARED. Obama added 100,000 voters in LV and 20,000 in Clark. Probabaly the lot of them went for him.

I mean Obama got a higher % in NV than OR. We need major strategizing.


49 posted on 11/07/2008 10:16:15 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I read your posts and understand your point. In 1976 I had to keep my ill Father informed of the primarys as we had two TV’s in the house and he was incapable of watching. It was the Republican Convention he was concerned about. He was a Kennedy Democrat but saw the magic of Reagan. He liked Reagan but unfortunatly didn’t see him elected in ‘80.


50 posted on 11/07/2008 10:16:49 PM PST by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If the economy hadn’t melted McCain would’ve run a lot stronger.


51 posted on 11/07/2008 10:17:43 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: goldstategop

Yes indeed. I have some relatives like that there and they do not like Obama at all. Hillary won the primary pretty handily there.


52 posted on 11/07/2008 10:18:14 PM PST by hout8475
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To: eyedigress

Ok - I’m going off memory here. :-)


53 posted on 11/07/2008 10:18:55 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Where do you change the dark ness of the colors on those DL maps.


54 posted on 11/07/2008 10:24:24 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yeah, I think of Oklahoma as the Republican Massachusetts.

Way to go, OK.


55 posted on 11/07/2008 10:35:31 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Norman Bates

You saw the “trends” option on Dave Leip’s site, right ? Colorado, aside from some counties, seemed to have a visceral anti-GOP reaction. It’s sickening we lost Marilyn Musgrave. I wasn’t happy, either that the Sec of State abandoned his post to run for Congress (Tancredo’s seat). Now the rodent Governor will appoint a hack to that post. Only 2 Republicans left in the delegation with Crank as the senior member. Appalling. Just a few cycles ago there were just 2 Democrats. I literally believe a good chunk of this country has gone off the deep end. Bat$hit crazy.


56 posted on 11/07/2008 10:38:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He didn’t run a general election campaign. Did you meet his Mormon consultants from San Diego area? One of them was the Foley aide BTW. Talk about slime, those two consultants personify the word. One of their Dad’s is a slimey consultant from the Los Angeles area and the son got in trouble trying to rig an election at the University of Michigan. Istook never campaigned in Cleveland County, the 3rd largest county in the State. His campaign people brought in by the Mormon Church did not understand Oklahoma. Was up in the office three times and never went back.

The problem is he was such a bad candidate that it cost us some statewide races. A decent candidate probably would not have beat Henry but at least made it closer then 2-1.

In my County it spread like wildfire that Istook was Mormon and then there was the case of child molestation that also came up that he helped bury according to Court records for the Mormon Church.

Then we had the door hangars that were so bad I told the people putting them out in this County to stop hanging them. They blamed Howard Dean, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and John Kerry for abortion — the only problem was that we did not have a Senate race in OK and Dean was not in Congress. We had a lot of complaints about them that cost us more votes.


57 posted on 11/07/2008 10:41:02 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It’s going to swing back our way. Think of the all the gains we made in the Ninties.


58 posted on 11/07/2008 10:41:43 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: PhiKapMom

Romney could win your state.


59 posted on 11/07/2008 10:42:06 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Do you think Bobby Jindal will be a good choice for next President? If we need a passionate articulator of conservatism - if that is the key - then he is the man. The only problem is he’ll have to come out of his governor’s race and right into the primaries.


60 posted on 11/07/2008 10:44:08 PM PST by Norman Bates
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