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HOW MCCAIN DEFEATED MCCAIN
GrassTopsUSA (EMail) ^ | 11-06-08 | Don Feder

Posted on 11/07/2008 4:10:56 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen
The very act of choosing a gaggle of losers to run his campaign was an egregious error.

In all fairness to that gaggle of losers, McCain was the biggest turn-off of a candidate ever. His nasal voice sounded like a tin horn stuck on b-flat.

His teeth were too yellow, and he LOOKED too old for heavens sake. America like their president to be dynamic, charasmatic, engaging.

McCain is NONE of those. The GOP could have defeated Obama handily had it picked a more articulate, dynamic, expressive candidate who had the balls to say what needed to be said. (regardless of the economic mess. people were LOOKING for a reason to reject Obama, but they found none in McCain)

McCain’s jowells remind everyone constantly that he has mellinoma.

People in America like tall Presidents with swagger and confidence. McCain is short and frumpy, and is too self demeaning for me.

And McCain has absolutely NO CHARM at all. Women flock to candidates with charm.

Reagan, GWB, even G. Herbert Walker Bush had some charm.

21 posted on 11/07/2008 4:44:40 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: IbJensen

“To me a ‘moderate’ is a silly fool who staddles the centerline and doesn’t stand for a damned thing.”

especially if you are a senator because all you have are votes and speeches. A moderate governor at least has a track record (low unemployment, growth, programs that work, etc)


22 posted on 11/07/2008 4:45:30 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: TomGuy

The definition of STUPID:

Trying to do the same thing over and over again exactly like the first time and expecting a different result!


23 posted on 11/07/2008 4:45:48 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: IbJensen

That being said, we haven’t had a decent candidate since Ronald Wilson Reagan.

nope and even if we had Reagan again he’d be too old for this generation.


24 posted on 11/07/2008 4:46:47 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: TomGuy

Many advocated that nominee McCain would be different from member of the Senate McCain.

or that palin represented a change in mccain...he just used her and us.


25 posted on 11/07/2008 4:48:40 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: IbJensen
An important factual correction:

> Republicans lost because they nominated their weakest candidate.

Republicans lost because the media and Dem crossover voters in open primaries nominated the Republicans' weakest candidate.

26 posted on 11/07/2008 4:51:04 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: IbJensen

In spite of running against four powerful forces: the anger against Bush, Obama’s huge fund raising advantage, the MSM being in the tank for Obama, and the mortgage meltdown, McCain needed only 2.2 more percentage points of the vote to win. He didn’t get those votes because he ran an an absolutely rancid campaign, except for Sarah.

Here are a few of the things he didn’t do that, together, would have given him the presidency and saved all of us from the abomination to come: 1) relentlessly attack Obama for Obama’s Marxist, terrorist, racist associations and alliances; 2) in each debate point out how the mortgage meltdown was caused by Clinton’s CRA regulations and policies forcing banks to give subprime mortgages to people who couldn’t pay for them and Obama’s support for that policy; 3) attack Obama for the disgraceful ad he ran that ridiculed McCain for not being able to use a keyboard due to his war injuries; and 4) do some real opposition research so he could have discovered and used Obama’s publicly posted remarks about “bankrupting” the coal industry and causing electricity rates to “skyrocket.”

Those of us, myself included, who believed McCain was a MSM/DemonRat Trojan Horse who stole the Republican nomination by gaming the system have been fully vindicated.


27 posted on 11/07/2008 4:52:17 AM PST by libstripper
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To: IbJensen

McCain did not lose.

The Republican party lost the election. The Rats worked hard to convert non voters to voters in the critical precincts in critical counties in critical states. Acorn and similar efforts can be criticized but there are no fraud allegations and zero convictions. Acorn did their job effectively.

The RNC got their butt whipped on the ground. They lost because they did not work at the most basic of political tasks.......working at the grass roots.


28 posted on 11/07/2008 4:52:40 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Save America......... put out lots of waferin)
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To: ari-freedom
or that palin represented a change in mccain...he just used her and us.

Yep.

I posted weeks ago that, if they did get elected, I see him marginalizing her to the typical VP duties -- state funerals and the daily inquiry about the President's health.

Her popularity, I would bet, grated on McCain's ego throughout the campaign. Their body language on stage at his concession spoke volumes.
29 posted on 11/07/2008 4:55:49 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain can’t advance, what he doesn’t understand.

I knew they would blame Palin to preserve McCain. Romney is also trying to set himself up for another run. These RINOs are predictable. They are nothing more than Democrats without the Teflon armour.


30 posted on 11/07/2008 4:56:26 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I disagree because he had the one advantage that none of the other candidates had: his distance from Bush. For all of mcCain’s mistakes, Bush was the biggest problem.


31 posted on 11/07/2008 4:56:43 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: TomGuy

yeah but mccain is 72.


32 posted on 11/07/2008 4:58:57 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Republicans lost because the media and Dem crossover voters in open primaries nominated the Republicans' weakest candidate.

... while several conservative candidates split the other votes and would not coalesce around a single strong conservative who could effectively challenge McCain.

Even after McCain's nomination was certain, he still could not muster more about 75% of the Republican votes and only about 33% of the conservative votes in the primaries.
33 posted on 11/07/2008 4:59:44 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: IbJensen
The developing dismal situation will demonstrate that a strong, benevolent despot is required; perhaps someone of Francisco Franco's mettle.

Augusto Pinochet (may he rest in peace) saved Chile from thge same fate it looks like we're headed for. We may need a great man like him.

34 posted on 11/07/2008 4:59:54 AM PST by libstripper
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To: IbJensen

I found my new tag line in that article!


35 posted on 11/07/2008 5:02:51 AM PST by NonLinear (McCain failed to raise the money to project the message he didnÂ’t have.)
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To: ari-freedom; jimrob
not after the crisis/bailout and 8 years of Bush. Probably a o win situation.

In all due respect, you could not be more wrong.

Voters were LOOKING desperately for a reason to reject Obama (or Hillary for that matter), and they found none in McCain, the consummate boring WashDC insider.

Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but the stubborness of conservatives (like many here on FR, including JimRob) resulted in Romney the economics guru and Wash-outsider being rejected for ?? ... what, he is too Mormon.....

...he made a statement or two about homo civil rights 15 years ago????

He was once pro-choice but is now pro-Life????

He is too successful in business???

Don't mind saying it still irks me to this day that the only... ONLY Republican candidate who could have won was treated so shabbily by hard right conservatives, of which I am one.

And don't give me this baloney that the south would "never" have supported Romney, because that is laughable when made against the backdrop of their rejection of Obama the race-baiting anti-American.

In the end, I would rather win with a slightly flawed candidate like Romney than get trounced and humiliated thanks to a McCain candidacy who was embarrassed to be Republican.

It's maddening.

36 posted on 11/07/2008 5:03:33 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: libstripper
Those of us, myself included, who believed McCain was a MSM/DemonRat Trojan Horse who stole the Republican nomination by gaming the system have been fully vindicated.

And another reason why I am for a new political party. The GOP is fatally flawed, and the betrayal of Sarah Palin and McCain's silence speaks volumes to me.

The GOP wanted this outcome, deep down. They won't fight, even though their candidate asked America too.

In the face of a radical Marxist obtaining the Presidency,from Bush on down, the response was tepid.

The only ones that wanted the GOP to win were the conservatives, and Sarah ignited our passion for dragging the GOP to victory one more time.

But's let's face it--why would we ever do this again? The GOP is a bunch of feckless, spineless wimps who don't even love their country enough to fight for it.

Conservatives are Charlie Brown. The GOP is Lucy pulling away the football.

So, let them go their way and we'll go ours. A new conservative party, with Palin, Jindal, and others is the answer.

The GOP deserves nothing more from conservatives. They couldn't even keep a Communist out of the White House a mere 20 years after Ronald Reagan left office.

Time to move on, and leave stupid behind.

37 posted on 11/07/2008 5:03:39 AM PST by exit82 (It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

romney had the support of most of FR. That will not happen again.

What will he do during the next 4 years anyway? He only had one term as governor and the reason why he ran for president was because he knew he probably wouldn’t win a second term after his mediocre performance.

So he did his homework and gave some nice speeches with the hope that conservatives would ignore his actual record.


38 posted on 11/07/2008 5:04:27 AM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: IbJensen
If someone had told me last year that, come the fall of 2008, I would be praying for John McCain to become the next president of the United States, I would have had three words for him – seek psychiatric help. (McCain is my kind of Republican the way “rap” is my kind of music.)

My daughter, who heard me have all kinds of choice words for McCain when she was in first grade in 2000, was a bit confused this year when I became his biggest supporter! But once I told her the stories of the live babies left to die, she understood how we had to do everything we could to keep the monster BHO out. We stuck up for McCain, despite our differences. Why can't he stick up for Sarah?

39 posted on 11/07/2008 5:04:47 AM PST by Elvina (The average IQ in America is 100. Half are operating in the double-digits --as seen last Tuesday.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Clever picture! I love the part in the movie where Johnny Depp cheats at fencing and the other guy acts surprised. "Pirate," shrugs Depp.

There were issues McCain couldn’t use and issues McCain wouldn’t use.

I always had the impression that his kind treatment of his opponents was less from a sense of "chivalary" and more of a sense that he would be back in the Senate on Nov. 5th.

40 posted on 11/07/2008 5:05:09 AM PST by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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