Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

‘Religious Right’ Still Key to Conservatism’s Future, Leaders Say
CNS News ^ | 11/6/08 | Pete Winn

Posted on 11/06/2008 10:05:26 AM PST by truthandlife

Social conservative leaders in Washington, D.C., say that Tuesday’s sea change election doesn’t spell the end of the conservative movement. But it will mean a thorough “shake-out” -- and the Religious Right needs to re-think its relationship with the GOP.

“I don’t think the conservative brand is damaged,” Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council told CNSNews.com.

“I think conservative values continue to be something that a large number – if not a majority -- of Americans identify with,” he said. “I think the brand problem is a Republican problem. And I do think they are going to have to do some rebuilding. I think part of that is reaching out to young people, and part of it is a return to the conservatism of Ronald Reagan.”

There will always be a conservative movement in the United States, Perkins said.

“I think that as long as there are people in this country who care deeply about the values that dictate the environment in which their children grow up, the conservative movement will be strong,” Perkins told CNSNews.com.

But Tuesday’s election results were clearly a setback.

“You know, it comes and goes, and there have been some setbacks in recent years because, I think, the conservative movement has clearly been identified with the Republican Party,” he added.

Perkins said that some in the GOP have “kind of fallen off the wagon” and have done things “which have brought discredit to the conservative movement” – a reference, he said, to scandals and allegations such as those that surfaced just before the 2006 election, as well as last week’s conviction in federal court of Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens on ethics charges.

Perkins said that social conservatives have invested a lot of time and money in the Republican Party in the last few elections, with questionable returns.

“When you look at the investment that was made by conservatives into the Republican Party in the last few elections -- and the return -- there is some question whether or not the Republican leadership has actually delivered on some of these key issues – in particular, on the issues of life and marriage,” Perkins said.

Conservatives and Republicans made advances in minority communities in 2004 primarily on social issues, Perkins said, especially the issue of marriage – gains that have all but been erased.

“What the Republican leadership delivered in that area was marginal,” he added.

Connie Mackey, who works with Perkins as senior vice president of FRC Action but is a well-known conservative in her own right, said conservatives may need to reassess their relationship with the GOP.

“For conservatives, the Republican Party is simply a vehicle in which we ride. When that vehicle cracks up, which it looks like they have done in so many ways, we need to look for another vehicle,” Mackey told CNSNews.com.

Mackey predicted the conservative movement will face a “difficult time” of readjustment. Already, she said the “bloodletting” is beginning – with some blaming Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a conservative Christian, for the ticket’s loss.

“Unfortunately, there are those who will want to blame Sarah Palin, which of course, is absurd,” Mackey said. “She was a boost to McCain. I don’t think he would have gotten as far as he did without her. And there are those who will look to the Christian Right to blame for what’s happened.”

In fact, some would like to “throw social conservatives under the bus,” she said.

“It always happens, to a degree,” Mackey said. “They always look to the Christian Right to say, ‘If you people weren’t aboard, we could have this Big Tent, in which case we’d win.’ And of course, nothing could be further from the truth.”

Mackey, like Perkins, however, is hopeful for the future.

“I do think that there is a definite, wonderful future for conservatives,” she said. “Looking at (Louisiana Gov.) Bobby Jindal and (Rep.) Mike Pence (R-Ind.), and (Gov.) Sarah Palin (R-Alaska), we’ve got some great people to get behind, but it’s going to take some serious planning.”


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: 2008; christianvote; conservative; gop; mccain; palin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

1 posted on 11/06/2008 10:05:26 AM PST by truthandlife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
A conservative is defined by values - among them faith in God and the belief in timeless values that never change. Without that a person by definition becomes a liberal.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/06/2008 10:08:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife

Don’t you know the godless Left would have a coronary should there be a new Christian Conservative Party with Sarah Palin running at the top of the ticket? It would certainly serve the Republican Party right for continually disparaging Christians, as Sarah is being maligned by the “moderates” on McCain’s staff today.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 10:11:05 AM PST by kittymyrib
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife

“If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” 2Thess. 3:10

Great verse IMO to win on.....


4 posted on 11/06/2008 10:12:20 AM PST by Sybeck1 (The President is near! The President is near!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

Unfortunately too many SoCons were happy to have Big Government so long as it promoted their agenda. There’s nothing conservative about that.


5 posted on 11/06/2008 10:14:08 AM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: kittymyrib

Actually, I assume the left would be delighted to see a permanent split in the conservative vote.


6 posted on 11/06/2008 10:14:37 AM PST by Angostura
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife

I’m all about social issues. But I’m also about property rights, gun ownership, free speech, states rights, taxes, and fiscal responsibility, i.e the Constitution.

There are more issues than just abortion and gay marriage.

I don’t think we need a Big Tent GOP, but we do need Big Tent Conservatism. Social conservatives need to understand their issues are part of the spectrum.


7 posted on 11/06/2008 10:18:38 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
The vast majority of American citizens are no longer willing to put their lives and living standards on the line to oppose abortion ... which they supposedly believe to be a great injustice.

The vast majority of American citizens are ashamed to be seen publicly as opposing gay marriage.

The tide has turned. It used to be that we didn't even talk about abortion or homosexuality because we all pretty much agreed these were horrors too disturbing to discuss.

Now mentioning that you are pro-life or anti gay marriage will bring up the same reactions as mentioning that you are an axe murderer.

If the Republican Party wants to survive going forward they need to completely disassociate themselves from the religious right.

If the conservatives want to survive going forward they need to create a strong advocacy group that can put its weight behind specific issues and candidates. It would be something like the Christian Coalition, but without any specific religious affiliation.

I believe that for the short run the Republican Party and conservatives need to part ways.

Maybe those who remain stalwart Republicans will start to refocus on balancing budgets and reining in big government.

Meanwhile the conservatives can start supporting positive positions such as adoption as an alternative to abortion and homeschooling in opposition to state indoctrination via public schools.

They can come together on occasion when their interests align, e.g. eliminating the Dept. of Education.

8 posted on 11/06/2008 10:18:47 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: kittymyrib

A “Christian Conservative Party” would not win. As to 3rd parties, think how much impact Ross Perot had. Not much in the long run, huh?

The reality is that most Americans are Christians in name only. To have moral ideas that are informed by faith is fine, but to be overtly theocratic will not go. Sorry, but those days are over, like it or not. The urbanization and secularization of American culture is too far along to reverse. Meanwhile, “give to Caesar, what is Caesar’s.” What we CAN do is to re-join the conservative coalition of national security/foreign policy conservatives, social (religious) conservatives, and fiscal conservatives. In that path lies strength, purpose AND numbers. What that means in practice that the three sources of the conservative strength don’t get all they want, but do better than they could alone. Like it or not, that’s what is.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 10:19:48 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife

Asking Tony Perkins to comment on the future of the conservative movement is like asking Captain Edward John Smith to comment on the future of the Titantic.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 10:23:23 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Tell us again why you thought the "lesser of two evils" would lead you somewhere other than to hell?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
A conservative is defined by values - among them faith in God and the belief in timeless values that never change. Without that a person by definition becomes a liberal.

i don't agree with that. i think too much was emphasized on things like embryonic stem cell research, abortion, gay marriage and the like. fiscal conservatism is more likely to draw in the younger "neo-cons" and the "southpark republicans."
the younger republicans i talked to (i will admit, this is a small sampling, but this is my group) look at gay marriage, ESCR, and abortion as states rights issues. whereas budget, deficit, gov't size, gov't paygrades, privatization of SS, drilling at home, credit scares, the plunging market, etc. were more important issues facing them.
they are also concerned about universal health care (they don't want it), RKBA, border fences, trade deficits, illegal immigration, tax rates, morality of people in office.. every conservative issue other than religion was on their minds.
this is the crowd we need to draw in, and it is less likely to happen by emphasizing religious issues than by emphasizing fiscal conservatism.
i'm not saying faith is negative, or its not important, but it can't be the primary focus of a campaign.
11 posted on 11/06/2008 10:30:47 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: kittymyrib
Don’t you know the godless Left would have a coronary should there be a new Christian Conservative Party with Sarah Palin running at the top of the ticket?

I know that the left would be absolutely delighted by such a move - this Christian Conservative Party would have no hope of ever winning the White House itself and would draw enough votes away from the GOP to keep Democrats in control of the White House and Congress for decades.
12 posted on 11/06/2008 10:33:47 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: mgstarr

Snatched the words right out of my mouth. Alright, I understand all that the SoCons have to say, but what about FISCAL CONSERVATISM? Mentioning Reagan, and only talking about social conservatism but ignoring fiscal conservatism, is a falsehood. Look at Bush ...followed the script more or less when it came to religious issues, but when it came to things like immigration, or better yet, FISCAL ISSUES, he was worse than a Democrat!
I support a strong moral center, but that alone only makes us ‘heaven bound LIBERALS!’


13 posted on 11/06/2008 10:35:27 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
A conservative is defined by values - among them faith in God and the belief in timeless values that never change. Without that a person by definition becomes a liberal.

A social conservative is defined by these values - they certainly don't define conservatives (or any non-liberals) interested primarily in economic and defense matters.
14 posted on 11/06/2008 10:38:14 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: mgstarr

You’re right. The social issues were not the main issues of the Reagan revolution or in ‘94. It was getting gov’t _out_ of our lives, not into it, that was the driving idea.


15 posted on 11/06/2008 10:40:06 AM PST by Kent C
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: truthandlife
Father Frank Pavone

[Electing Obama] A Grave Mistake and an Abiding Hope

16 posted on 11/06/2008 10:42:18 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AnotherUnixGeek
So true. SoCon and Conservative are absolutely not synonymous.
17 posted on 11/06/2008 11:06:33 AM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: absolootezer0
this is the crowd we need to draw in, and it is less likely to happen by emphasizing religious issues than by emphasizing fiscal conservatism. i'm not saying faith is negative, or its not important, but it can't be the primary focus of a campaign.

The primary issue in this campaign can be summed up in two words: George Bush. The election was a referendum on how he performed in office. Many conservative felt betrayed by Bush and his Republican allies in Congress.

If the Bushites and McCainiacs think that they have redefined the Republican party, they are hugely mistaken. And now is the time for conservatives to take back the party that their leaders lead in the wrong direction. The Republican party can and will find the leadership it needs to get back on track.

The only problem with Sarah Palin is that she came on the national scene about a year later than we needed her. She did an outstanding job given the poor state of the Republican party under the flawed leadership of Bush. She brought many people back to the Republican party. She energized the base of the Republican party. If any of those Republican stuffed shirts like Karl Rove think they have any further role in the party, they are mistaken.

18 posted on 11/06/2008 11:16:28 AM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: stripes1776
If the Bushites and McCainiacs think that they have redefined the Republican party, they are hugely mistaken

teh problem is, they have. going back to bush 1, there's a whole list of rinos that have redefined the republican party to be more centrist and spineless. look at the options we had in the primaries.
we need people like palin, hunter, jindal, sanford, demint, and other real conservatives to step up and put us back to where we belong.
19 posted on 11/06/2008 11:28:42 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: mgstarr

Snatched the words right out of my mouth. Alright, I understand all that the SoCons have to say, but what about FISCAL CONSERVATISM? Mentioning Reagan, and only talking about social conservatism but ignoring fiscal conservatism, is a falsehood. Look at Bush ...followed the script more or less when it came to religious issues, but when it came to things like immigration, or better yet, FISCAL ISSUES, he was worse than a Democrat!
I support a strong moral center, but that alone only makes us ‘heaven bound LIBERALS!’


20 posted on 11/06/2008 11:37:40 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson