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Drill Sergeant Joe B. Fricks Rules For A Gunfight
My memories of BCT at Ft. Benning | Drill Sgt (E-7) Joe B. Frick

Posted on 11/06/2008 9:11:18 AM PST by MindBender26

Know variations of this have been posted before, but I figure this is important for two reasons:

1. Many criminals may be emboldened for recent election results.

2. We all need a "lighten up" a tad.

DRILL SERGEANT JOE B. FRICK'S RULES FOR A GUN, KNIFE, BASEBALL BAT OR FIST FIGHT

1. Forget about knives, bats and fists. Bring a gun. Preferably, bring at least two guns. Bring all of your friends who have guns. Bring four times the ammunition you think you could ever need.

2. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammunition is cheap - life is expensive. If you shoot inside, buckshot is your friend. A new wall is cheap - funerals are expensive

3. Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss.

4. If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly.

5. Move away from your attacker and go to cover. Distance is your friend. (Bulletproof cover and diagonal or lateral movement are preferred.)

6. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a semi or full-automatic long gun and a friend with a long gun.

7. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

8. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading, and running. Yell "Fire!" Why "Fire"? Cops will come with the Fire Department, sirens often scare off the bad guys, or at least cause then to lose concentration and will.... and who is going to summon help if you yell "Intruder," "Glock" or "Winchester?"

9. Accuracy is relative: most combat shooting standards will be more dependent on "pucker factor" than the inherent accuracy of the gun.

10. Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.

12. Have a plan.

13. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. "No battle plan ever survives 10 seconds past first contact with an enemy."

14. Use cover or concealment as much as possible, but remember, sheetrock walls and the like stop nothing but your pulse when bullets tear through them.

15. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.

16. Don't drop your guard.

17. Always tactical load and threat scan 360 degrees. Practice reloading one-handed and off-hand shooting. That's how you live if hit in your "good" side.

18. Watch their hands. Hands kill. Smiles, frowns and other facial expressions don't (In God we trust. Everyone else keep your hands where I can see them.)

19. Decide NOW to always be aggressive ENOUGH, quickly ENOUGH.

20. The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

21. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet if necessary, because they may want to kill you.

22. Be courteous to everyone, overly friendly to no one.

23. Your number one option for personal security is a lifelong commitment to avoidance, deterrence, and de-escalation.

24. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with anything smaller than "4".

25. Use a gun that works EVERY TIME. "All skill is in vain when an Angel blows the powder from the flintlock of your musket." At a practice session, throw you gun into the mud, then make sure it still works. You can clean it later.

26. Practice shooting in the dark, with someone shouting at you, when out of breath, etc.

27. Redardless of whether justified of not, you will feel sad about killing another human being. It is better to be sad than to be room temperatire.

28. The only thing you EVER say afterwards is, "He said he was going to kill me. I beleived him. I'm sorry, Officer, but I'm very upset now. I can't say anything more. Please speak with my attorney."

Finally, Drill Sergeant Frick's Rules For Un-armed Combat.

1: Never be unarmed.

2: If you have your hands, your feet, your mind and your Spirit as an American Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine or Coastie, you are never unarmed.


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To: Lurker

Okay, here’s my point:

It is 3am, in your house, and there are no lights on. A burglar/robber has entered your house, he is liquored up and has a borrowed handgun he has never fired. Its safety is on, and he doesn’t know it. He does not know that you are there, or that you have a knife, or that you intend to rush him and stab him with it.

Compare that to a trained police officer with his gun in his holster, who has entered your home at 3pm in bright light, with the expectation that there is an armed person inside. He is stone sober, but you have been drinking. He sees you in a hallway at 21 feet, and you have your knife in plain sight and are screaming that you are going to kill him. You have to pass through the hallway and into the living room, over a sofa, to get to him.

Again, it is a matter of a combination of milliseconds.


41 posted on 11/06/2008 2:25:03 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Try my experiment.

Give someone a Sharpie Marker and you get a cap gun. Holster it.

Proceed with demo.

You'll 'die' everytime.

Everytime.

L

42 posted on 11/06/2008 2:31:07 PM PST by Lurker (Thank you Governor Palin. It's not your fault. You got shackled to the worst Pub since Ford.)
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To: Lurker

Concur-

The 21 foot rule has benn taught forever.

There is statistical evidence/testing that it needs to be expanded to 35 feet. I am unsure of the source on that, but will be looking for it. I know I have seen work to validate it for future case law concerning use of deadly force with Knife wielding subjects


43 posted on 11/06/2008 2:35:35 PM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: Myrddin

A 357mag is not a bad load.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 2:36:59 PM PST by Mashood
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To: Myrddin
The CorBon Powerball should feed in anything.

Since you like .45s, I once had 1911 Serial # 000086 in my arms room! It was all banged up, mismatched parts, the rounded backstrap, etc, but it was # 86!

Be well.

45 posted on 11/06/2008 2:48:15 PM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
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To: glorgau

OK, sit right there in your barcalounger and call in an airstrike. Mind if I watch?


46 posted on 11/06/2008 5:55:46 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Knitebane
I'm having a hard time getting the wife to let me put 105s in the back yard.

Have you considered the M777 155mm? At 5 tons it's about twice as heavy as an M101 but I figure I can still tow it behind the Tahoe. The M777 gives you 30km range, unassisted - which for me would put Berkeley and most of southern Marin within range. Only problems are the price tag ($1 megabuck) and the fact that it won't fit in my current garage.

47 posted on 11/06/2008 7:38:02 PM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: MindBender26

Nothing like a nice semi-auto shotgun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXYsjcwO5Vo

JoMa


48 posted on 11/06/2008 7:45:08 PM PST by joma89
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Won't fit in my garage either and all of the really good targets are farther than 30km.

Now a year ago I was within 30km of Chapel Hill, NC, so that would have been nice.

I think I'll need some SRBMs or something to reach the People's Republic of Chapel Hill from here.

And nothing says "LEAVE ME ALONE!" quite like a nuclear warhead does.

49 posted on 11/06/2008 8:28:05 PM PST by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: MindBender26

I have ‘Red Dawn’ and ‘Tears of the Sun’. What’s ‘Triumph of the Will’ like?


50 posted on 11/10/2008 12:03:37 AM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: DogBarkTree

Those guys are all too close.


51 posted on 11/10/2008 12:04:22 AM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: glorgau

Like they said in one of the Alien movies, “nuke ‘em from orbit.”


52 posted on 11/10/2008 12:05:30 AM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: Dick Vomer

Those are some awesome captioned pictures.


53 posted on 11/10/2008 12:06:46 AM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

***3) Inside, it is far better to be prone, shooting up, than be standing up and having to lower your gun to shoot down.***

Could you explain that one please?


54 posted on 11/10/2008 12:09:00 AM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: wastedyears

Triumph of the Will (German: Triumph des Willens) is the classic propagandistic documentary film.

It was produced and directed by the German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl. It chronicles the 1934 Nazi Party Congress in Nuremberg.

The overriding theme of the film is the return of Germany as a great power and how, by force of will, an entity that may lack in quantity or quality of those elements usually considered necessary to win a conflict can emerge victorious.


55 posted on 11/10/2008 1:54:28 AM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
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To: Knitebane
Remember, it's indirect fire.

Put the 155 SPs 10 klicks away, shoot in the back yard, apply the met message every day, and you are one phone call and a short time of flight away from total home security.

How would she ever know?????

:)

56 posted on 11/10/2008 1:58:43 AM PST by MindBender26 (Never kick a leftist when they are down. Wait 'til they're halfway back up! You get better leverage!)
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To: wastedyears

This is a classic indoor defensive trick. When people are standing up, their attention is for other people standing up, and that is where their gun is usually directed. It takes them precious milliseconds to first notice a prone person and aim their gun lower, and at a smaller profile.

Ideally, the prone defender is shooting through a doorway. They are already aimed at torso level, and are not moving and making noise. Their eyes are adjusted to whatever light level there is. They can likely let slip with a shot or two even before they are seen.


57 posted on 11/10/2008 6:26:21 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Well I was thinking in terms of a sharpshooter perch.


58 posted on 11/10/2008 11:32:24 AM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: Lurker
Take a page from the quick draw folks. Recent training for our County folks is "first round in the dirt". As you draw your weapon, the instant it clears the holster, squeeze the trigger 2-3 times. Firing literally from the hip at "danger close". Practiced at 7 yrds, you can put the first round in the dirt and still put the next 1-2 rounds on target.

If you wait for full extension, set your feet, clear sight picture, you are done for.

Move to your weak side, draw to hip, start firing. Throw attacker off your line, gets smoke/noise/projectiles into the equation, and at 7 yrds if your can't point shoot on a man sized target you need to trade your badge in for a Wal-Mart greeter tag.

Not a 100% solution, but not as inevitable as you are making it sound either. Tried this with airsoft pistols and Sharpies. You will get "cut" an alarming amount of the time even if you get multiple "hits" on target.

Really stresses "situational awareness" as king...

59 posted on 11/10/2008 12:16:45 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
You will get "cut" an alarming amount of the time even if you get multiple "hits" on target.

That was precisely my point my friend. When I was trained in the 'private sector' the ROE was "If you see a knife and you're not already cut, shoot them dead."

L

60 posted on 11/10/2008 12:38:29 PM PST by Lurker (Thank you Governor Palin. It's not your fault. You got shackled to the worst Pub since Ford.)
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