Posted on 11/06/2008 9:11:18 AM PST by MindBender26
Okay, here’s my point:
It is 3am, in your house, and there are no lights on. A burglar/robber has entered your house, he is liquored up and has a borrowed handgun he has never fired. Its safety is on, and he doesn’t know it. He does not know that you are there, or that you have a knife, or that you intend to rush him and stab him with it.
Compare that to a trained police officer with his gun in his holster, who has entered your home at 3pm in bright light, with the expectation that there is an armed person inside. He is stone sober, but you have been drinking. He sees you in a hallway at 21 feet, and you have your knife in plain sight and are screaming that you are going to kill him. You have to pass through the hallway and into the living room, over a sofa, to get to him.
Again, it is a matter of a combination of milliseconds.
Give someone a Sharpie Marker and you get a cap gun. Holster it.
Proceed with demo.
You'll 'die' everytime.
Everytime.
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Concur-
The 21 foot rule has benn taught forever.
There is statistical evidence/testing that it needs to be expanded to 35 feet. I am unsure of the source on that, but will be looking for it. I know I have seen work to validate it for future case law concerning use of deadly force with Knife wielding subjects
A 357mag is not a bad load.
Since you like .45s, I once had 1911 Serial # 000086 in my arms room! It was all banged up, mismatched parts, the rounded backstrap, etc, but it was # 86!
Be well.
OK, sit right there in your barcalounger and call in an airstrike. Mind if I watch?
Have you considered the M777 155mm? At 5 tons it's about twice as heavy as an M101 but I figure I can still tow it behind the Tahoe. The M777 gives you 30km range, unassisted - which for me would put Berkeley and most of southern Marin within range. Only problems are the price tag ($1 megabuck) and the fact that it won't fit in my current garage.
Now a year ago I was within 30km of Chapel Hill, NC, so that would have been nice.
I think I'll need some SRBMs or something to reach the People's Republic of Chapel Hill from here.
And nothing says "LEAVE ME ALONE!" quite like a nuclear warhead does.
I have ‘Red Dawn’ and ‘Tears of the Sun’. What’s ‘Triumph of the Will’ like?
Those guys are all too close.
Like they said in one of the Alien movies, “nuke ‘em from orbit.”
Those are some awesome captioned pictures.
***3) Inside, it is far better to be prone, shooting up, than be standing up and having to lower your gun to shoot down.***
Could you explain that one please?
Triumph of the Will (German: Triumph des Willens) is the classic propagandistic documentary film.
It was produced and directed by the German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl. It chronicles the 1934 Nazi Party Congress in Nuremberg.
The overriding theme of the film is the return of Germany as a great power and how, by force of will, an entity that may lack in quantity or quality of those elements usually considered necessary to win a conflict can emerge victorious.
Put the 155 SPs 10 klicks away, shoot in the back yard, apply the met message every day, and you are one phone call and a short time of flight away from total home security.
How would she ever know?????
:)
This is a classic indoor defensive trick. When people are standing up, their attention is for other people standing up, and that is where their gun is usually directed. It takes them precious milliseconds to first notice a prone person and aim their gun lower, and at a smaller profile.
Ideally, the prone defender is shooting through a doorway. They are already aimed at torso level, and are not moving and making noise. Their eyes are adjusted to whatever light level there is. They can likely let slip with a shot or two even before they are seen.
Well I was thinking in terms of a sharpshooter perch.
If you wait for full extension, set your feet, clear sight picture, you are done for.
Move to your weak side, draw to hip, start firing. Throw attacker off your line, gets smoke/noise/projectiles into the equation, and at 7 yrds if your can't point shoot on a man sized target you need to trade your badge in for a Wal-Mart greeter tag.
Not a 100% solution, but not as inevitable as you are making it sound either. Tried this with airsoft pistols and Sharpies. You will get "cut" an alarming amount of the time even if you get multiple "hits" on target.
Really stresses "situational awareness" as king...
That was precisely my point my friend. When I was trained in the 'private sector' the ROE was "If you see a knife and you're not already cut, shoot them dead."
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