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Dems Target Private Retirement Accounts
carolina Journal ^ | November 04, 2008 | Karen McMahan

Posted on 11/05/2008 6:39:05 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

RALEIGH — Democrats in the U.S. House have been conducting hearings on proposals to confiscate workers’ personal retirement accounts — including 401(k)s and IRAs — and convert them to accounts managed by the Social Security Administration.

Triggered by the financial crisis the past two months, the hearings reportedly were meant to stem losses incurred by many workers and retirees whose 401(k) and IRA balances have been shrinking rapidly.

The testimony of Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, in hearings Oct. 7 drew the most attention and criticism. Testifying for the House Committee on Education and Labor, Ghilarducci proposed that the government eliminate tax breaks for 401(k) and similar retirement accounts, such as IRAs, and confiscate workers’ retirement plan accounts and convert them to universal Guaranteed Retirement Accounts (GRAs) managed by the Social Security Administration.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; bho2008; communism; contributions; democrat; democrats; georgemiller; government; incomeredistribution; ira; jimmcdermott; legaltheft; obamatransitionfile; redistribution; retirement; sharedsuffering; socialism; socialist; socialists; socialsecurity; spreadthewealth; theft; wealthredistribution
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To: MartinStyles

The “success” of the War on Drugs ought to put to rest any notion that this government is capable of controlling any kind of product sales very effectively, when enough people (and it’s not a large number) decide that the rule of law doesn’t bear any relevance to their lives.


21 posted on 11/05/2008 6:50:09 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: bootless

The model was the Lenin October Revolution.. Which followed Marx well. Now we have that mentality in power. People are gonna be shocked at what they see happening with their vote before long.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 6:50:14 PM PST by MartinStyles
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To: AmericanMade1776
This should be made into an ad RIGHT FRICKIN' NOW for the Republican party.
23 posted on 11/05/2008 6:50:14 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Viking2002
What's the over/under on how quick they'll go after gold if I cash out?

I'm thinking platinum might be a better bet. High intrinsic value, but "under the radar".

24 posted on 11/05/2008 6:51:17 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MartinStyles

Lets force the government retirement system do the same thing. Or do the PC redistribution of government pensions. Hell, I don’t care how much it inconveniences them. We can move thrir retirement age to 300 years old and solve any problems!!!


25 posted on 11/05/2008 6:51:33 PM PST by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: MartinStyles

I’ve got a friend that just bought 4k ton of pellets (for burning). Good as gold when you live in new england. A word of caution: you need to own a large warehouse if you are going to invest in pellets :-)


26 posted on 11/05/2008 6:51:47 PM PST by Billg64 (LOL ROFL Senator Mccain for what????)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Oh, Argentina, that place, I grew up around there; their ‘system’ had to devalue their currency several times over the last decades so their ‘decimal point’ kept moving!

Oh, those people that had their savings in dollars a few years back, well, the gov just changed it to pesos overnight and they just ruined tons of families.

Yeah, that is what is coming, makes me think back when I studied the Constitution to be a good American and moved here, now I am abut to re-live my youth!!!

27 posted on 11/05/2008 6:51:52 PM PST by elpinta (Insured by Walther, Glock, Smith & Wesson.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71
I suspect there are enough moderate Democrats in the House who wouldn’t even go along with such a scheme.

They'll simply find a way to blame Bush/the Republicans and it will be all right with his zombie followers.

28 posted on 11/05/2008 6:52:13 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: poindexter
poindexter wrote: Dude, this story is so old it has whiskers. I’m not saying it isn’t true, mind you.

Look Missy, I am not a Dude. And the date of the news story is today. And here is a picture of the looney tune Teresa Ghilarducci


29 posted on 11/05/2008 6:52:23 PM PST by AmericanMade1776 ( Our Mamma beats your Obama)
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To: AmericanMade1776
The testimony of Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York

The New School For Social Research!! Theresa is undoubtedly a staunch fiscal conservative /sarcasm
Wake up America!!!! These are the types UBER LIBERALS go to for advice.
30 posted on 11/05/2008 6:53:56 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: MartinStyles
. Sometimes it seems that just keeping cash in a safe is the safest. In multiple currencies.

Then they just change the currency and you are screwed
31 posted on 11/05/2008 6:53:59 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Viking2002

“What’s the over/under on how quick they’ll go after gold if I cash out?”

Guess that depends on how much lead you have to protect it ...


32 posted on 11/05/2008 6:56:14 PM PST by Jackson57
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To: AmericanMade1776

bookmark


33 posted on 11/05/2008 6:56:26 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush. Pray for our troops. Pray for McCain /Palin, Pray for our nation.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Rah Rah dimRATS....
take the money and screw Big Business
If Obama can’t do it Biden can...

Rah Rah dimRATS
Soak the Rich and tax the workers...
If Biden can’t do it Pelosi can...

Rah Rah dimRATS
if the cats run out of money take their assets
if Pelosi can’t do it Reid can...

and so on down the list of ComRATS


34 posted on 11/05/2008 6:58:29 PM PST by billmor (LibRATS-- friends of -terrorists,murderers, abortionists and dictators)
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To: AmericanMade1776
We will use screws this big on the rich and 401K owners.


35 posted on 11/05/2008 6:59:42 PM PST by listenhillary (2 legs good, 4 legs baaaad!, ~~ Obama Hussein - You make it, we take it.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

This will spark an armed revolt. If they do this, this country and this congress will cease to exist in this lifetime. There will be nothing left of the Capitol. hundreds of millions of Americans will burn it to the ground, with the democrats in it


36 posted on 11/05/2008 7:00:47 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: AmericanMade1776

Socialism has bankrupted the country

Our national debt can’t be maintained

You ain’t seen nothing yet


37 posted on 11/05/2008 7:01:35 PM PST by uncbob
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To: tacticalogic
I'm open to any and all non-volatile suggestions. I'm not looking to make a killing in any given market, I just want to protect MY GADDAMNED MONEY and keep it out of the hands of The Occupation and their Vichy sycophants.


38 posted on 11/05/2008 7:01:38 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's be proactive and start the impeachment NOW.)
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To: NetSurfer

“So freakin’ scary I can’t even process it. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?”

WEBSTERS DEFINITION OF SOCIALISM: 1. Public collective ownership or control of the basic means of production, distribution, and exchange, with the avowed aim of operating for use rather than for profit, and of assuring to each member of society an equitable share of goods, services and welfare benefits.
2. The doctrines, practices, etc., of those advocating this system.


39 posted on 11/05/2008 7:01:53 PM PST by Toespi
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To: AmericanMade1776

I still have my 401K from a previous employer. Managed by Fidelity, with generous investment options as far as choosing instruments.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 7:02:21 PM PST by AFreeBird
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