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I guess McCain’s campaign really was a disaster.

Well, Reagan had a great 2 campaigns, Bush 41 had one. Then a disaster. Clinton had 2 good campaigns with a Dole disaster and then Gore had a disaster with Bush having a brilliant campaign. Then Kerry Imploded and Bush survived. Now the Dems get a great campaign and the GOP imploded.

The problem I see is that the Dems are so blinded by Zer0 that they are bound to run a good campaign in 2012 while the GOP campaign people are busy with mutally assured destruction.

Has ANY GOP person besides Rove run a really good campaign lately? I actually don’t think Schmidt did too bad with the crap they were handed, they would have won without the bailout crash IMO, but he is probably toast now. Although the campaign is looking worse in retrospect by the day.

I hope Jindal has a good right hand man picked out. Palin is going to have a hard time finding people she can trust IMO.

With Romney likely toast, looks like Jindal in the pole position with Palin 2 carlengths back. Is there anyone else who can pull onto the lead lap?


24 posted on 11/05/2008 5:14:22 PM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant
Is there anyone else who can pull onto the lead lap?

I don't care much for the guy, but you can't rule out Rick Perry.

30 posted on 11/05/2008 5:17:36 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Crimson Elephant

There are some good campaign people out there and there are some really bad consultants.

If I was going to run a campaign I would pay the money and have Ed Goeas run my campaign like he did for Congresswoman Mary Fallin. She had a campaign manager but Ed was the consultant who called the shots.


32 posted on 11/05/2008 5:19:24 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Crimson Elephant

I tend to question these MSM reports about troubles within the McCain campaign. Keep in mind MSM wants to distract people from their failure to vet Obama. What better way to brainwash the public as to why McCain lost, then to say McCain lost because of disagreements among the people in the campaign.

For myself I believe it is difficult for either party to have a longterm Senator or Representative as their nominee. Those Senators or Representatives have had to compromise too many times to get a piece of legislation passed.

Every compromise becomes a skeleton in their closet that will be used against them in a Presidential Election.


44 posted on 11/05/2008 5:24:46 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Crimson Elephant
With Romney likely toast, looks like Jindal in the pole position with Palin 2 carlengths back. Is there anyone else who can pull onto the lead lap?

Mark Sanford can bring home the bacon.

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45 posted on 11/05/2008 5:25:01 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

They’re trying to trash Sarah out of the running just like they did Rick and George. Sarah wasn’t as bad as George, and I still don’t know why Rick bowed out other than the left frickin’ hated him.

Actually I do — couldn’t raise money. That’s the only reason any of these people bow out.

What Sarah needs to do now, I think, is write a book. I think she has the capacity to raise a LOT of money, and that MAKES her a player. THAT is how you force your way onto the scene.

And she should never play second fiddle to anyone ever again.


71 posted on 11/05/2008 5:50:14 PM PST by ichabod1 (You won't know obammunism is here until it puts a boot in your (fat) bottom.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

Hillary’s campaign imploded pretty good.


77 posted on 11/05/2008 5:52:18 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Crimson Elephant; nutmeg; Norman Bates
I have an observation and an idea:

Since the death of Lee Atwater, the GOP has not had a heavy hitter. Plain and simple. The GOP needs a heavy hitter, who he or she is, I don't know. Perhaps Ton Delay?

Idea: The search should start NOW. There should be a master list of presidential and vice presidential candidates created immediately. It should be a diverse list of potential candidates from all walks of life: military, governors, Lt. governors, State AG’s, Congressmen/women, mayors, etc.

To recreate the party, outside the box (and Beltway) methods must be utilized.

BTW, I think it's over nationally for Gov. Palin - she's been Quayled.

82 posted on 11/05/2008 6:02:27 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Campbell: Brown as Bullsh*t)
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To: Crimson Elephant

McCain, like Dole, never had a chance.

The race was winnable, but both men were viewed as over the hill and ready for the nursing home. Its just that simple.

The presidency is simply a popularity contest for the undecideds. They have no clue regarding policy.

When McCain won Florida in the primaries, we were toast. It was over before we started.


114 posted on 11/05/2008 7:07:35 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Crimson Elephant

First thing we do is forget all the party has-beens, stop this old boy, next in line, GOP stuff and go with new blood. The new blood isn’t any of the people who ran in the primaries this year...not a one, they are Palin, Jindal and whoever else shines forth in the meantime. We have to actively recognize talent to rebuild the party... starting with cleaning up the RNC and RNCC


123 posted on 11/05/2008 7:22:01 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Crimson Elephant

“the Dems are so blinded by Zer0 that they are bound to run a good campaign in 2012”

Not so sure about that. I think that “change” thing is going to come back to haunt them. I can hear it now, “Obama promised you change. And now that’s all you have left.”

His symbol-driven and juvenile-message campaign was good to capture the America Idle center and the W.H., but not very good to keep it especially if you can’t deliver. Think “misery index” for Carter in 1976 and against Carter in 1980.


127 posted on 11/05/2008 7:26:12 PM PST by Norman Bates
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