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Obama: "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket."
ObamaHood.org ^ | 11/1/2008 | Soft Tyranny

Posted on 11/03/2008 7:07:04 AM PST by SoftTyranny

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To: mvpel

This is like people saying that socialism doesn’t “work” - it WORKS, if your goal is to have the masses under the control of a few of the ruling class.

Same goal here - that energy usage will only be available for the very wealthy and the very well connected. Rand called this the “Aristocracy of Pull”.


21 posted on 11/03/2008 8:04:21 AM PST by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Red Badger

Ooohh, I remember V! I loved that show!

And you are right in the similiarities. I didn’t realize it was based on a novel, I will search for this book now. Thanks!


22 posted on 11/03/2008 8:04:46 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: autumnraine

I know an 0bama supporter. Single woman living in a 4500 sq ft house. And she’s a “it can’t happen here” denier.


23 posted on 11/03/2008 8:05:36 AM PST by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: autumnraine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here

It is out of print and damn near impossible to find. It is available on-line as an eBook:

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0301001h.html


24 posted on 11/03/2008 8:07:29 AM PST by Red Badger (My wallet is made out of depleted you-owe-mium........)
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To: SoftTyranny
There's nothing wrong with "cap and trade" in principle (the idea began with free-market economist, Ronald Coase), as long as the cap is not made unreasonably low. Of course, setting the cap unreasonably low is Obama's plan.
25 posted on 11/03/2008 8:07:34 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: mmichaels1970
Back in the 80’s I visited the Soviet Union. The way they dealt with this sort of problem was by having multiple families living in one small apartment. No big deal, right?

Yeah. When I went to visit my aunt in the coal-mining area of Poland, where the government was in complete control of the economy, the pollution was so bad that she had to repaint her apartment every year.

On the plus side, at age 70, she was finally able to obtain her own apartment. She had worked as the rolling-pin-weilding manager of a local hotel, where she used to break up fights between coal-miners. I love my auntie!

The chicken we had for dinner looked like it had fallen down a flight of stairs though.

26 posted on 11/03/2008 8:15:00 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan
The chicken we had for dinner looked like it had fallen down a flight of stairs though.

lol. I remember the "chicken soup" we had in Leningrad. A bowl of broth with a neck bone in it.
27 posted on 11/03/2008 8:39:50 AM PST by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: EagleUSA

We don’t want to impeach Obama. He would be dreadful, but the institution of socialism does not rise to the level of impeachment. If he gets impeached, regardless of the reason, the next Republican president will face impeachment at every decision he or she makes. Unfortunately for us all, if Obama gets to the WH, all of us will suffer enormously, but there are consequences to elections.


28 posted on 11/03/2008 9:27:57 AM PST by twigs
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To: twigs

He would be dreadful, but the institution of socialism does not rise to the level of impeachment.
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I would agree that the socialism, itself, is not an impeachable offense, but the damage and outright oppression and suppression of Constitution rights and liberties, and the accompanying damage, in various forms, would be impeachable. Regardless of how hard the socialists are trying to make it otherwise, this is still A NATION OF LAWS. And we should be willing to fight to keep it that way.


29 posted on 11/03/2008 10:06:11 AM PST by EagleUSA
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