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Coal official calls Obama comments 'unbelievable'
West Virginia Record ^ | 11/2/2008 | Chris Dickerson

Posted on 11/02/2008 3:29:53 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

CHARLESTON - At least one state coal industry leader said he was shocked by comments Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made earlier this year concerning his plan to aggressively charge polluters for carbon and greenhouse gas emissions.

"What I've said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there," Obama said in a Jan. 17 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle that was made public today first on the Web site newsbusters.org, which calls itself "the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias." The story later was linked on The Drudge Report.

An audio excerpt from the interview can be found at YouTube.

"I was the first to call for a 100 percent auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter," Obama continued. "That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

"So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."

Calls and e-mails to West Virginia Obama campaign officials seeking comment for this story were not returned as of Sunday evening.

According to the West Virginia Office of Miners' Health, Safety and Training, the coal industry provides about 40,000 direct jobs in the state, including those for miners, mine contractors, coal preparation plant employees and mine supply company workers.

West Virginia is the second largest coal-producing state in the country behind Wyoming and accounts for about 15 percent of all coal production in the United States. The Mountain State leads the nation in underground coal production and leads the nation in coal exports with over 50 million tons shipped to 23 countries. West Virginia accounts for about half of U.S. coal exports.

In addition, the coal industry pays about $70 million in property taxes in the state annually, and the Coal Severance Tax adds about $214 million into West Virginia's economy. The coal industry payroll in the state is nearly $2 billion per year, and coal is responsible for more than $3.5 billion annually in the gross state product.

"The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster," Obama said in the San Francisco Chronicle interview. "What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it."

The senior vice president of the West Virginia Coal Association called Obama's comments "unbelievable."

"His comments are unfortunate," Chris Hamilton said Sunday, "and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally."

Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.

"In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said 'not here' about building coal-fired power plants -- this is exactly what will happen," Hamilton said. "Financing won't be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.

"If we're going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here."

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's state director said Obama's statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.

"I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal," Ben Beakes said Sunday. "Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters - that's what we have to take as gospel.

"They're definitely not friends of coal."

Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he'd like to tax "dirty energy" such as coal and natural gas.

"And their cohorts in Congress make similar statements," Beakes said. "(Senate Majority Leader) Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said this summer that 'coal makes us sick.'

"This is an attitude and view that, to me, shows their hatred of coal. And therefore, their view would cost West Virginians thousands upon thousands of jobs."

Beakes touted McCain's view toward coal.

"John McCain has embraced coal," Beakes said. "He doesn't agree with everything in the coal industry, but his view of coal is positive. He will make it part of his energy policy. He's met with leaders in the coal industry and let them know that. He's sought advice from coal industry leaders.

"McCain understands that coal supports about 49 percent of our electricity in this country. He'll continue to make coal important. He wants to reduce our foreign dependency on oil."

Hamilton also said the Obama campaign needs to find varied sources for coal and energy advice.

"If they're victorious Tuesday, they'd better go to someone other than Al Gore on energy and environmental matters," he said. "They've tipped the balance way -- unnecessarily so -- toward protecting the environment."


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KEYWORDS: antichrist; capandtrade; carboncredits; coal; colorado; conspiracy; economy; energy; marxist; mining; obama; obamao; ohio; pennsylvania; socialist; taxandtrade; umw
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

If Obama becomes President, sorry, Dictator,then Americans will have cold long winters while the elites are in their warm Dacha’s
Hpw can so many supposed Americans be fooled by this wannabe Communist...


41 posted on 11/02/2008 3:53:17 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: tsmith130
Good thing this is reprinted in its entirety on Free Republic. You cannot access the site from which this came for the time being anyway ... also there was a YouTube video on Barack Obama, William Ayers and Acorn at this link here that has been removed.
42 posted on 11/02/2008 3:55:28 PM PST by mlizzy
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Don't forget, if he gets his way and doesn't bankrupt coal companies, we will absorb the carbon tax in higher energy costs. This should be a huge story for miners and the coal industry as well as utility companies and other industries who use energy derived from coal. It's a shame that it is surfacing so late, but maybe that will work in McCain's favor because the opposition will have less time to spin it.

I can tell you first hand that some coal burns cleaner than other kinds. We had tenants in a farm house, I accompanied my father to check on things. While my father talked to the husband, the wife took me upstairs. The walls, ceilings, everything were completely coated with filthy coal dust that had floated through the ducts.

On the way home, I told my father about it, and he put in a new furnace that could switch between propane and wood, I think that's what it did. It came out that they had purchased cheaper "soft" coal from somewhere in the south. Curiously strip mining was common in the area where the farm was but all the mines nearby had either shut down, been abandoned or mined out, never thought to find out about that. I'm talking Illinois. It still has a lot of coal deposits, especially in the southern part of the state.

For the comsumer, we could darn well freeze to death from his draconian idealogy if energy is rationed or energy bills go too high. The poor can't pay them already and have to go every winter and apply for help from the government, and when the allocation for that year runs out as it always does, they are SOL. Many around here where it gets freezing cold in the winter have already had their natural gas shut off, happens in Chicago, too.

43 posted on 11/02/2008 3:56:22 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
MSM is going to spike this story.

You never know. About a third of the newpapers have endorsed McCain. Some will run the story.

All of us should be sending the youtube link to our state papers and tv stations.

44 posted on 11/02/2008 3:57:15 PM PST by freespirited (Honk to indict the MSM for treason.)
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To: tsmith130

Copy the Obama youtube and other news stories and send them to the UMWA offices——

From UMWA site:

District 2 (PA, NY, Eastern Canada)
113 Roberts Rd. Suite B
Grindstone, PA 15442
724-785-8692
ryantko@umwa.org

Sub-district offices

Hazelton, PA 570-455-3621 Lucernemines, PA 724-479-8692 Glace Bay, NS 902-849-8692
District 12 (IL, IN, Western KY, MO, IA, KS, OK, AR, LA, TX)
3695 South Sixth St.
Springfield, IL 62703
217-529-8301
umwa12@springnet1.com

Sub-district offices

Benton, IL 618-439-7225 Madisonville, KY 270-821-2774
District 17 (Southern WV, Eastern KY, VA, TN)
1300 Kanawha Blvd. E.
Charleston, WV 25301
304-346-0341
jcarter@umwa.org

Sub-district offices

Beckley, WV 304-252-0611 Castlewood, VA 276-762-5537 Chapmanville, WV 304-855-2280 Welch, WV 304-436-4123 Pikeville, KY 606-437-7376
District 20 (AL, FL, GA, MS)
275 Forest Rd. Suite 100
Hueytown, AL 35023
205-744-9853
umwadistrict20@bellsouth.net

District 22 (Western U.S.)
525 East 100th South
Price, UT 84501
435-637-2037/2066
umwadistrict22@emerytelcom.net

District 31 (Northern WV, OH)
310 Gaston Ave.
Fairmont, WV 26554
304-363-7500
reddy@umwa.org

Sub-district offices

Bridgeport, OH 740-635-7600
Canada
33 Gallant St
Glace Bay, NS, Canada B1A1T2
902-849-8692
umwa@ns.sympatico.ca

Regions
Region I
113 Roberts Rd., Suite B
Grindstone, PA 15442
724-785-8693
umwaregion1@verizon.net

Region II
1300 Kanawha Blvd. East
Charleston, WV 25301
304-343-0259
region2@umwa.org

Region III
1530 North Main
Benton, IL 62812
616-439-6373
janumwa@neondsl.com

Region IV
6525 West 44th Ave.
Wheat Ridge, CO 80033
303-425-7110
Region4@umwa.org


45 posted on 11/02/2008 3:58:23 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: mlizzy

I just got on the site.


46 posted on 11/02/2008 4:01:34 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: mlizzy

I found the story via Google News with the keywords Obama and Coal.

When I went back to Google News it had been pulled in the very short time it was up.

I guess it was to be that I was able to find and post it so quickly.


47 posted on 11/02/2008 4:01:40 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Every family’s Electricty Bill will go through the roof, when Obama increases taxes on the Coal Industry until they become bankrupt.


48 posted on 11/02/2008 4:02:38 PM PST by igoramus08
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

All good stuff, but all too late. Where has McCain’s oppo-research been? This could have buried Obama in West Va and PA. and flat footed McCain is talking about it on Sunday before election day.

There was enough stuff in Obama’s background, from his own imbecilic mouth, not counting Sirhan Sirhan, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi and Rezko to bury him in this election. McCain can’t get out of his own way. If he wins it is divine intervention!


49 posted on 11/02/2008 4:02:45 PM PST by Titus-Maximus ( Ayers dedicated his book,"Prairie Fire" to Sirhan Sirhan, hey Teddy what do you think?)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Heck, I believe his statements.

Obama doesn’t have much of a shot in West Virginia, anyway.


50 posted on 11/02/2008 4:03:53 PM PST by popdonnelly (Obama is a neo-Marxist)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Indeed ... good job ...

Here's the audio for this story if it's not already posted ... link.
51 posted on 11/02/2008 4:04:57 PM PST by mlizzy
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To: freespirited

The timing on this story is brilliant.

Just as the American Public is breathing a bit easier now that gasoline is down to $2.50 per gallon or so, the last thing the American Public wants to hear is that Obama wants electricity prices to SKYROCKET!!!!!!


52 posted on 11/02/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: popdonnelly; All

The folks in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Colorado need to get this news.


53 posted on 11/02/2008 4:05:42 PM PST by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism and OBAMA IS A MARXIST)
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To: mware

Country roads.
Take him home.

To the place,where he belongs.

Would that be Kenya?


54 posted on 11/02/2008 4:08:52 PM PST by IM2MAD
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To: Titus-Maximus

This stuff is not too late. Too many people only retain something they see or read in the news for 3 days or less.

Secondly, by releasing this audio of Obama now, he has no time to refute what he said.

Third, if Obama refutes what he said that only makes the story become more newsworthy and published in more places.

Use the internet to email this story to friends, bloggers, newspapers, talk shows, etc.


55 posted on 11/02/2008 4:09:07 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: IM2MAD

anyplace but 1600 PA Ave.


56 posted on 11/02/2008 4:09:56 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

**Oh man...will we have to wipe with our left hands, too?***

YES! Without toilet paper! (Save the trees!)


57 posted on 11/02/2008 4:11:04 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Paging Cecil Underwood (sound of chirping crickets)......


58 posted on 11/02/2008 4:11:15 PM PST by WVNight (We havn't played Cowboys and Muslims yet....)
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To: mware

Hotair has more at

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-ill-make-energy-prices-skyrocket/


59 posted on 11/02/2008 4:11:47 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I just made a phone call to

Hazelton, PA 570-455-3621 Lucernemines, PA 724-479-8692 Glace Bay, NS 902-849-8692
District 12 (IL, IN, Western KY, MO, IA, KS, OK, AR, LA, TX)
3695 South Sixth St.
Springfield, IL 62703
217-529-8301
umwa12@springnet1.com

There is actually someone answering the phone who insists that Obama is a friend of the UMWA and will bring hope and change. Maybe the lil fella needs to hear from some more Freepers


60 posted on 11/02/2008 4:13:05 PM PST by happyhomemaker (That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children)
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