Posted on 11/01/2008 2:21:40 PM PDT by Josh Painter
It's no secret. Go to some of the PUMA sites and read their posts. A lot of them admit to doing this.
I suppose maybe this is part of why McCain’s internals are so much better than what the MSM polls are saying (well this and the oversampling of dems)
http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/09/pumas-dont-forget-to-say-you-are-voting-for-barack-obama-if-polled/
The one thing that I have not heard mentioned too much, is that each of the Democrats since Reagan has never drawn above 49% nationally (Clinton did against Dole, but barely). Clinton was probably the strongest RAT that they have run and I don’t think there is any way that Barry will attract over 50%. If he doesn’t, he is through IMHO.
“There are many posts describing how PUMAs have told pollsters, or intend to tell them if called, that they will vote for Obama when they intend to vote for McCain.” ~ JP
This is a copy of what I sent out to my email lists on 10/23/08:
PUMAS: “Don’t underestimate us!!” “We’re lying to the pollsters”
PUMA = Democrat “PARTY UNITY MY A$$” -— “And they’re NOT being polled accurately.”
First some comments:
“We all remember Harriet Christian; the lady who made a big scene after the DNC gave the nomination to B. Hussein. Well, Harriet and other PUMAs are taking weekend bus tours every weekend into PA. Check it out: http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/22/get-on-board-harriet%e2%80%99s-bus/
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I’ll say one thing for the PUMA’s too, they are very organized and when it comes to getting things done, they don’t mess around. 34
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“I was reading one of their forums and some of them are now listening [noon to 3 AM dial] on a regular basis to Hannity and Rush, and even Coulter (when’s she’s on Hannity and Colmes) with new ears. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html Back in 1998, Rush is what turned me on to conservatism. I think if some of them listen long enough, they’ll discover Limbaugh is not the racist like they have been told and actually very smart when it comes to how the Dems operate. It’s hard to go back once you’ve had your eyes opened. It’s been 10 years now for me, and while I was never a Democrat per se, I was fairly brainwashed toward liberal/pop culture think. 30
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There is a guy a few streets down that always had Gore, Kerry and Dem signs. I think he is retired union. I have been watching his house because he always has yard signs. Today he has a McCain sign up. Other Dem houses I footnote in my head that had Kerry/Gore signs have no signs or McCain. ... McCain versus Obama is about 70 to 1. There are probably 2 to 1 or 2.5 to 1 more McCain signs then Bush 2000/2004. I think people are a lot more motivated. 44
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I normally wouldn’t believe stuff like this except for two women in my office. Both were ardent Hillary supporters in the primary. Both have told me they will be voting for McCain. I was very shocked when they each told me this because both of these women are feminist. They resent like hell the way the MSM treated Hillary and crowned Obama. They also said they did not like the way the MSM has treated Sarah Palin. Like I said I was shocked because I thought both of these women would never vote Republican. Maybe there is hope for this country! 46
Win or lose, Obama may have broken the Democratic Party
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113100/posts
By Christopher Cook
I talk to them every day.
To call them “disgruntled Hillary supporters” is to drastically underestimate who they are and what has happened to their thinking. To call them “disgruntled Hillary supporters” suggests that they’re only upset at Hillary’s loss in the primary, and that they’ll be back after the anger settles.
Wrong.
Okay, that will undoubtedly be true of some of thembut not the ones I’ve been talking to. The ones with whom I ..have been speaking will NOT be back under the Democrats’ tent any time soon, and possibly ever.
You see, they didn’t just get upset at a loss, they saw something in the Democratic Party that they didn’t like.
Now, you and I will tell them, “oh, that’s been there for a long time.” I myself, especially after a recent improvement to my education on the subject, might suggest that what they see now has been creeping in since the start of the Wilson administration.
For right now, though, those details don’t matter. What matters is that they’ve seen the leftist rot eating away at an American political party.
The ones with whom we are in contact are not leaving the party out of some petulance at a primary loss, they’re leaving the party because that rot has been exposed to them.
Barack Obama has lifted up the carpet and showed them the rotting floorboards (or teeming roacheswhatever metaphor you like) underneath.
Obama represents the far left, and he will bring them in with him if he wins.
And, as scary as that prospect is, he has at least done us the favor of making the Democrats leftward lurch sufficiently obvious that it has awoken and angered a significant subset of the Democrats’ base.
They’re angryat what they see in the party, in the media, and in the radical leftist groups committing so much crime on Obama’s behalf. . .
They’re working HARD for McCain . . .
They’re making quiet confessions of conservative views and open declarations that they will never vote Democrat again . . .
And they’re NOT being polled accurately.
They’ve also got a pretty serious manifesto up at Just Say No Deal. I will include the first portion of the text here, with a link to continue reading.
This is not a transitory phenomenon; this is a sea-change:
We Clinton Supporters and bloggers have been viewing the death of the Democratic Party through the lens of a coup or hostile takeover by its liberal left wing. We witnessed in disbelief as our party became the party of violence, sexism, misogyny, racism, thuggery, theft, corruption, caucus fraud, and voter registration fraud.
Before casting a vote, Centrist Dems and all other Americans must stop looking at the current Democratic Party through the perception they have of what the Democratic Party once meant.
that party was dead and buried on may 31, 2008
This is not your grandmother’s left wing (or maybe it is). What is now being uncovered is that the takeover of the Democratic Party is being orchestrated by a group of people with socialist/marxist beliefs, with a pinch of fascism sprinkled inbeing led by a hand picked, groomed and marketed messiah under the guise of “progressivism”with a belief system that states the ends justify the means. This may also explain why well over 90% of the African American population is voting for this candidate, and though some of it has to do with his race, more may be because of his socialist philosophy.
barack obama is that hand picked candidate
Hillary Clinton was systematically destroyed by the “Democratic Party” in the primaries. We may debate her strengths and weaknesses as a candidate, but not being part of the ‘master plan’, she was quite simply irrelevant.
On the other hand, Barack was spoon fed his current core beliefs for decades, and is a willing participant in the downfall of America as you know it. The candidate who has shattered all fund raising records, is now deeply in political debt to his radical associations.
It’s time to understand where this “alien” democratic party is heading with Obama in the foreground and his numerous radical socialist/marxist associates in the background. Let’s start with a history lesson . . .
Continue reading here, http://www.justsaynodeal.com/ about seven paragraphs down.
If the DNC and Democratic Party structure isn’t seriously worried about this, they should be. They may be drunk on Obamahol now, and they may even win the day, but when they sober up, they’re going to see that they’ve lost a number of friends.
“...PUMAs have told pollsters, or intend to tell them if called, that they will vote for Obama when they intend to vote for McCain.”
Are they reliable? Or will they change their minds at the last minute. Praying for reliability.
Glad to have you here!
I know Hillary loves her country, unlike the current Dem nominee.
For what it’s worth, I always wanted Hillary to win the Primary, even though I knew she’d be tougher to beat in the General. Barack scares me, and I didn’t even want to take the chance he might win. Sure enough, here way are 3 days before the election, and he might win.
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PUMA.
Party Unity My Ass.
That’s what I needed to understand; thanks. All I was coming-up with were animals, shoes etc.
Makes some sense, now...
I was just checking one of the PUMA websites and they were raving about the Rev. Wright ad that running in swingstates this weekend. Anyone seen this ad? (I’m in CA so they’re not showing it here).
If BO wins and his black inner city followers act heavy handed against whites, it would be like Reconstruction but applied on a national level. BO would be the last black President the US will ever have. PC education will not teach the humiliation and injustice that Northern carpet baggers and liberated black slaves perpetuated on the whites during Re Construction. Look how bitter the whites in the South was towards Northerners and blacks till the 1970’s.
I’ve been good, old buddy! The new business is finally turning the corner, and McPalin is about to take us higher!
Altogether, I couldn’t be better!
I’m thrilled to see you being published on one of the premier blogs (RedState). That is just outstanding.
Do you have a blog now where I can keep up with you?
I’m going to a party tonight with a bunch of potential PUMA’s.
One point I always make with them is NObama’s dirty tactics in the caucus states.
MN was pretty bad I thought. Was ACORN involved with any of NObama’s Caucus wins? I thought I heard something about that in MN. Obamaniacs coming in an running the caucus sites.
I hope we are not all engaged in massive wishful thinking about biased polls, PUMAs, MCain voters refusing to be polled or lying about their preference, etc. I confess that I have no idea what will happen Tuesday. I have a terrible fear that the majority of the electorate are now a bunch of ignorant sheep who believe the lies and distortions they are fed by the media and are primed to vote for socialism. I hope I am wrong, and it has not deterred me from voting, contributing to Sarah Palin and 527’s, etc. I don’t intend to knuckle under even if the communists do win. But I’m braced.
from PUMA anecdotal posts.
That was AWESOME!!!!!
I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't checked out a PUMA site yet. It was eye-opening for me...so nice to see that those guys and gals loathe 0 as much as we do. They've got his number! God bless the PUMAs!!
I hope nobody has forgotten the “Operation Chaos” factor.
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