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Top German Officials Intervene to Defeat Traditional Marriage in California
C-Fam ^ | October 30, 2008 | Susan Yoshihara, Ph.D.

Posted on 10/31/2008 10:26:19 AM PDT by NYer

     (NEW YORK – C-FAM)  A coalition of 33 American organizations has formally complained to the German government about what they see as the interference of German diplomats in a domestic American electoral fight. They charge that German foreign ministry and justice officials are working to promote “same sex marriage” in the United States and are working to defeat a California voter initiative to defend traditional marriage. The initiative, Proposition 8, is a response to the California Supreme Court 4-3 decision in May to strike down a similar measure passed by majority vote of Californians in 2000 that defined marriage as exclusive to a man and woman. 

     German Federal Minister of Justice Brigitte Zypries campaigned recently in California to urge voters to follow the lead of Germany and the rest of Europe in promoting “same sex marriage” by defeating Proposition 8. According to the German Consulate in San Francisco, the justice minister’s lecture entitled, “Gay Marriage in Germany and California” at the “LGBT (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender) Community Center,” was accompanied by meetings with human rights organizations, a visit to city hall to gather information regarding the California Supreme Court’s decision, and a meeting with one California legislator who awarded her a certificate for her work promoting the cause.  

     The visit was arranged by Germany’s Consul General in San Francisco, Rolf Schuette, who has been working with local homosexual rights activists in California to undermine Proposition 8 by linking those who defend traditional marriage to the Nazis. “From…the persecution of homosexuals under Nazis to today…full equality for gay and lesbian couples has not been achieved…there are forces which even would like to roll back what has been achieved,” Schuette said. According to the consul general’s office, Schuette has dedicated about a third of his speeches this year to promoting “same sex marriage.” In campaigning against Proposition 8 and promoting “No on Prop 8” the German officials join many Hollywood celebrities, corporate backers such as Google and Apple, and the California Teachers Association which donated one million dollars to defeat it.

     The coalition American pro-family organizations sent a letter of protest to German Minister of Foreign Relations, Dr. Frank-Walter Steinmeier. Calling the “aggressive interference” by the Germans “scandalous,” the group complained that “a member of the German Foreign Service is interfering in a domestic matter of the United States that will be decided by American citizens.” The letter said Schuette’s “actions violate the role of a diplomat and abuse the courtesies extended to members of a foreign government,” bringing “disrepute to [Germany] by his insensitive misuse of his role as a guest and representative of the German government in our country.”

     Californians will vote on Proposition 8 as part of the California General Election ballot next week. The measure was initiated by ProtectMarriage.com and was originally entitled “California Marriage Protection Act,” before Attorney General Jerry Brown changed it to “Eliminates the Right of Same Sex Couples to Marry.” To pass the measure, a majority of Californians must vote “yes” on the measure. If they do, the California constitution will be amended to read “only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: gaystapo; germany; globalpolitics; homonazis; homosexualagenda; marriage; nazis; pinktriangle; prop8; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 10/31/2008 10:26:21 AM PDT by NYer
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To: sandyeggo

Ping!


2 posted on 10/31/2008 10:27:07 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

“....follow the lead of Germany and the rest of Europe...”

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Narcicisstic, amoral, secular socialists handing their culture and civilisation over to the medievel Islamics?

No, I think not.

On nearly ANY issue.


3 posted on 10/31/2008 10:34:10 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: NYer

This is _only_ the beginning if the messiah gets elected. Get used to European governments interfering internally, in more ways than you can possibly imagine.

Vote vote vote- their masks are dropping more by the day. This effort to seat Obama is nothing more than an attempted big push by the international socialists, to finally complete their work of the last few decades. They want it all,,now,, in one big final move. They want it all.
Be ready.


4 posted on 10/31/2008 10:34:33 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: NYer
>German Federal Minister of Justice Brigitte Zypries campaigned recently in California to urge voters to follow the lead of Germany and the rest of Europe in promoting “same sex marriage” just like they've rolled over for Islamic immigrants and are now taking it in the @$$ from them.

There, if fixed it... disgusting, the cause, the 'intervention', and the morally condescending attitude.

6 posted on 10/31/2008 10:37:31 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: sandyeggo

What about Murtha being ousted?

And what about finding that Dodd, Murtha, Dodd etc were under investigation for corruption and anything else the DOJ could make stick.


7 posted on 10/31/2008 10:39:35 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: sandyeggo

Amen,,, i do believe we will win,,and in historic proportions that truly shock the world. I think it will truly get bizzare, because they simply do not think there is any chance they can lose.

For them,, it would be like a transcendental religious leader has died. Don’t know what that means we will see from them,,,,a general strike (from the ones that work),, riots, etc,,,and no sarcasm here either, but i even expect we will see numerous suicides because Obama loses. Think, for example,,, the old Vietnamese monks burning themselves in protest,,
This thing is mucho scary.


8 posted on 10/31/2008 10:42:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: NYer

The conservative foreign legion issues and candidate fund.

Purpose - to muck with elections at city, province and national levels worldwide to promote conservative candidates and issues.

Why should we not do this? The opposition has no qualms about this behavior.


9 posted on 10/31/2008 10:46:48 AM PDT by listenhillary (4 legs good, 2 legs baaaad!, ~~ Obama Hussein - You make it, we take it.)
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To: NYer

“…originally entitled “California Marriage Protection Act,” before Attorney General Jerry Brown changed it to “Eliminates the Right of Same Sex Couples to Marry.”

Not familiar with the statutes concerning voter initiatives but would be outraged at Brown’s action. One would think the matter would appear on the ballot in the form endorsed by the thousands of voters required to get it on the ballot, or certainly as may have been presented in any pre-filing.

Eliminating a right is fundamentally unattractive. But in this case the “right” was established by a wacko court decision.

With a stroke of the pen, Brown changed what was expressed by the voters.


10 posted on 10/31/2008 10:54:58 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama: "I don't believe people should be able to own guns." Thanks for the heads up, O.)
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To: NYer

Don’t make us go over there and kick their asses again.


11 posted on 10/31/2008 10:57:04 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: NYer
Just take a look at their results.
Birthrates per female in Germany are at 1.4, which results in a decreasing native German population.
Foreigners in Germany, primarily Turks, have birthrates from 6 per female on upwards.
In 35 years those foreigners will replace the once so proud German heritage.
Germans need those foreigners however as their generous pensions requires those foreign laborers.
Bisexuality is supporting those negative native birthrates.
12 posted on 10/31/2008 11:03:24 AM PDT by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: NYer; reagandemocrat
Sorry, but the article is at least part BS. Example: Germany does not recognize same-sex marriage at all. It has civil unions (a.k.a. "registered partnerships"), which are open, but not exclusive to homosexuals. Registered partnerships BTW do not have constitutional rank, unlike marriage. Actual quote from the Grundgesetz:

Marriage and the family shall enjoy the special protection of the state.

Another quote from the German constitution, just for the fun of it: Religious instruction shall form part of the regular curriculum in state schools,...

Also, abortion is illegal in Germany (it's just that if it occurs during the first trimester and after counselling to save the baby's life, punishment will be waived. Actual text of the Strafgesetzbuch: The woman must thereby be aware, that the unborn child has its own right to life with respect to her at every stage of the pregnancy and that a termination of pregnancy can therefore only be considered under the legal order in exceptional situations, when carrying the child to term would give rise to a burden for the woman which is so serious and extraordinary that it exceeds the reasonable limits of sacrifice.

So in response to reagandemocrat: Don’t make us go over there and kick their asses again.

So the US can bring Germany on demand abortion and separation of church and state ? ;)
13 posted on 10/31/2008 5:43:40 PM PDT by wolf78
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To: wolf78

That’s great. However, I still see wht Zypries and the rest are doing as meddling by German citizens in foreign affairs which are none of their concern.


14 posted on 10/31/2008 11:10:51 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (There is no pravda in Pravda.)
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To: NYer

German debauchery was the prelude to the rise of Hitler. The example of the Germans is one to run from if you care about your country’s and the world’s well-being.


15 posted on 11/01/2008 11:53:11 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now (Obama's close pals for at least the past 30 years have been Communist terrorists with foreign ties.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

The prelude of WWII was the hyper inflation and unemployment as a result from WWI.

WWI was largely initiated by the germans out of an uncontrollable national chauvinism.


16 posted on 11/04/2008 2:18:15 AM PST by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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