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Obama campaign disregards current state polls showing Obama ahead (Obi-Wan tells NRO)
National Review Online - Campaign Spot ^ | 10/29/08 | Jim Geraghty on NRO Campaign Spot

Posted on 10/29/2008 11:15:14 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

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To: GraniteStateConservative

The thing is that a lot of these folks don’t see “black guy, unacceptable,” they see “black guy, probably thinks just like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Cynthia McKinney.”


41 posted on 10/29/2008 11:50:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I can’t wait until they contact me — registered D for 33 years! (JesseCrat)

However, we will be carpooling with another family to the State Fairgrounds in Raleigh to hear Sarah speak Saturday 6-7 PM.


42 posted on 10/29/2008 11:50:34 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Chet 99

“Gubmint cheese checks” arrive on the 2nd [as per my ex-postal worker mom] and a lot of his “potential voters” won’t even be sober enough to get to the polls.


43 posted on 10/29/2008 11:51:18 AM PDT by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: TonyInOhio

What happened to the arrogant assertion by Axelrod that “The One” will win 400 EVs?


44 posted on 10/29/2008 11:54:40 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Enchante

There is a 3rd item, which I would call the “Quasi-Bradley Effect.”

It doesn’t have to do necessarily with race, but rather with the fact that there are a FEW people out of a hundred, maybe 2 or 3, who will pull their punches because they do not want the poller to know who they are voting for.

Normally the 2 sides would tend to cancel each other out on this, but this year is a very unique atmosphere. The Obama advertising tsunami combined with the unprecedented level of press bias have made it abundantly, oppressively, clear that Obama is the cool, with-it guy and only very stupid people would vote for McCain and the Idiot Woman.

There are people who are psychological “people-pleasers,” who will balk at stating their true intentions because it is their life-habit to never offend “the-powers-that-be.” And this year “the powers-that-be” are working overtime to ridicule the very concept of supporting McCain.

If ONE person in 100 responds this way, it means one percentage point LESS for Obama and 1 MORE for McCain. If two respond this way, it changes the race by a net 4%, etc.


45 posted on 10/29/2008 11:54:46 AM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

You know, I’ll agree with some of your post...But not all...The folks around here aren’t voting for obama because he’s a died in the wool Soicalist/Communist...It wouldn’t matter if he were black or white.

On the other hand, There is an active Democratic group that is the most racist bunch of miscreants I’ve ever met. All of them are Union folks (Mostly MAchinists and Construction types0 who won;t vote for Obama simply because of his color...and these guys are hard left Unionites.

If anything, the racism being displayed is coming from the democratic party...Which honestly kind of stuns me.


46 posted on 10/29/2008 11:56:15 AM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
The Bradly effect is unique to the RAT party and comes from their own base of voters, RATS and Ind.

The big problem for Obummer is all the young voters likely will blow off the election because the polls and pundits show him as the sure winner.

Republicans always turn out to vote for everything even if they think the POTUS race is lost. They know everything else on the ballot is important, the brainless young RATS wont.

47 posted on 10/29/2008 11:56:18 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: romanesq
There’s trouble brewing. This is not what you want days before an election. And the comment about PA is revealing too. Clearly, the Obamatrons are unsure of their data and PA is perhaps off the map. Because they can’t rely on the data after Shrillary trounced them there. In other words, they are in deep doodoo and flying blind.

Where do you get this from? Your take on it? Reality is, if accurate the Obama camp seems very confident in PA...and less so in GA, NC and FL (well, we better damn well hope so!) Because if Obama takes any of those three states it is going to be a route (and 270 is meaningless).

NC, GA and FL. These are as solid red States as we can have. Obama doesn't need any of the three to be POTUS.....Yet they are shooting for them. That speaks volumes.

I'm not saying McCain is done, or a sure loser....but your take on the above is way off.

48 posted on 10/29/2008 12:01:24 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: TonyInOhio
I agree, but that's not what the Bradley Effect refers to. People are afraid to tell pollsters that they won't vote for Barry because they don't want to be seen as racists, not because they are racists. That causes pollsters to overestimate support for Barry, and that is what what the campaign fears. They don't know who will vote for them.

I agree with your definition of the Bradley effect but the problem is that this effect has been totally skewed this year due to the over sampling of dems to get the numbers they want that show Obama ahead and the very high number of undecided voters(which are in no way undecided).

This year is going to have a huge manufactured Bradley effect so that we get riots if Obama loses. This years polls have been a criminal enterprise.

49 posted on 10/29/2008 12:08:11 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: truthandlife; All

I, too, remain baffled by Obama’s strategy of declaring the race over.

He’s playing with fire.


50 posted on 10/29/2008 12:08:18 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Personal Responsibility

I’ve been quietly telling people that we have some inside indicators that Obama is not going to do well in OH at all, and this is BB-—Before Bradley.


51 posted on 10/29/2008 12:12:46 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Crawdad

There is a huge % black turnout in GA so far in early voting, and I think Obama is being pressured by the DNC to try and win the Chambliss seat and make McCain spend money and time there. McCain isn’t really biting. He is spending some ad money there.


52 posted on 10/29/2008 12:14:33 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: romanesq
Perhaps you also need to go to this thread and read more for positive reinforcement ...... <"http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2118759/posts">

I think Pennsylvania is lost for O'bomber and it will definitely cover for an Ohio lose if our Sec. of State - Brunhilda - steals the state for O'bomber.

53 posted on 10/29/2008 12:15:06 PM PDT by thingumbob ("Use your brain........vote McCain!" (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: Mr. Silverback

The reason many people belive that is because in order for black politicians to rise from the ranks, they have to kiss the rings of the established black players.

Or, in Swann’s case, they can be independently wealthy former famous athletes.

Racial politics is a big, big money making scheme for Sharpton, Jackson and the rest. They are not going to give up that cash cow just because some up and coming pol asks them to.


54 posted on 10/29/2008 12:23:37 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I love liberty. I hate equality.)
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To: LS
LS, Please let it be sooo.....I live in OHIO too and have been scared to death about Brunhilda stealing the state for O'Bomber.....

If the Rashid Khalidi tape is released after O'bombers Infomercial - NY will be close -Florida will be a goner unless he's banked enough jewish early votes.

And, if PA falls our way and Ohio goes too, we might be watching the domino effect from that point forward.

I've also felt that Pennsylvania was great cover for a stolen Ohio (20 vs. 21 electorals)....what say you?

55 posted on 10/29/2008 12:27:45 PM PDT by thingumbob ("Use your brain........vote McCain!" (Remember, dead terrorists don't make more terrorists!))
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To: bayliving

Yes. The MSM polls we see are manipulated because any of them with a MSM news agency are getting a cut of all the ad money going to MSM local TV stations, radio stations, web banner ads etc. Even Fox owns radio and local TV stations so they all suck up to Obama.

The MSM pollsters have to keep them happy. I.E. Rasmussen/Fox, CNN/Gallup, etc. This game should be ending towards the end of this week. TIPP/IBD and Battleground are not whores who take MSM money.

Obama’s internal pollsters are probably flying semi-blind in a snowstorm. Believe me - both campaigns especially the Republicans know how we vote down to neighborhoods and possibly each home.

What they don’t know is how the Hillary voters are going to vote and probably independents. Obama got stomped in states like PA, FL, OH and I think was weak in MI. Hillary won MI but I am not sure by how much.

Obama’s internal pollsters know the Hillary Dems are big problem. They know they will lose some but how many. Another thing is how pissed off are Hillary’s voters as they see ACORN trying to steal another election?

What is scaring them even more is Palin. How many Hillary women (and men) will she pull.

My guess is McCain’s campaign probably has a better feel. I read somewhere that McCain/GOP has some very good stuff GOTV database stuff.


56 posted on 10/29/2008 12:39:14 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Explodo

>If anything, the racism being displayed is coming from the democratic party...Which honestly kind of stuns me.

Why? The most racist people I’ve ever met have all been Democrats. This trend goes far back in history. See KKK, segregation, Wallace, Robert Byrd, etc.


57 posted on 10/29/2008 12:41:17 PM PDT by Frank L
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To: DevSix

If McCain nails FL, VA. NC, OH, MO, GA and then PA then it is over. McCain will get the South.

Obama thinks he is winning NM and NV but from what many have heard on the ground he should lose those states.

Obama got 32% of the vote in FL in the primary. This means 68% of Democrats voted against him.

He lost badly in other states like PA. He staggered across the line at the end. Hillary was surging and would have won if Obama/ACORN had not rigged some caucases. Hillary voters have not forgotten.


58 posted on 10/29/2008 12:45:21 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frank L

I was more stunned by the outright viciousness of it. While in the same breath saying it was the right that was racist.

In my mind I was looking at them thinking “Double Plus Crazy” or “You Pigs really think you are more equal”


59 posted on 10/29/2008 12:46:07 PM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: Frantzie
Obama is gong to take IA and NM. So be it. We don't need them.

This election is down to OH, VA, NV and CO. With OH and VA I have to believe tilted toward us (McCain)....and likely NV as well.... CO looks like trouble (and could put Obama over the top).

PA is the only blue State McCain has a shot at....at it is a very distant shot by all measures....Even Obama's latest internals show them not to be too concerned over PA (and they have history on their side....not to mention the last 50 polls out of PA ...of course these are slanted DEM....but the law of averages says not all 50 can be that wrong)...

If McCain holds OH, VA, NV and CO....We win. We are going to hold FL and NC without much trouble.

60 posted on 10/29/2008 12:52:58 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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