Posted on 10/27/2008 6:39:15 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
Edited on 10/27/2008 6:50:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
My 2 cents.
Allowing Obama’s henchmen to paint the Republicans as jack booted thugs checking everyone’s papers and going door to door to root out illegal immigrants so we can frog march them out of the country will guarantee a win for the Democrats.
Seal the borders now. Cut the social programs that draw the blood sucking immigrants who don’t want to work.
Deal with the immigrants humanely and let them pay their dues for breaking the law with service to our country. Treating people who are seeking a better life with aggression and hatred backed up with the force of government is a losing proposition. You will have the admiration of many with this path, but disdain and fear of government’s next move by more.
It will be spun as “Who else will the right wing thugs attack with government force? Atheists, gays, liberals?”
Because truth is not realy that important. The most important thing is being a perpetual whiner.
She supports a path to citizenship...but only when the ILLEGALS get to the back of the line.
Exactly. But based on some of the comments here, it seems there are some Freepers looking for any reason to dump McCain, and amnesty is one of them. Maybe McCain's support in this election isn't as solid as we would like to think.
Would you tell me Diana just where the end of that line is?
Since the time that those people entered the US illegally, so many hundreds of thousands of people applied LEGALLY at US embassies and consulates abroad, and still wait in line for their appointments.
The "end of the line" is behind THEM, on foreign soil.
If there is no policy to insist that those here on our soil can do anything to gain US citizenship which does not involve them vacating US soil, then it is in fact de-facto amnesty.
Quit making it sound like something it is not.
For the template on how Gov. Palin should have anwered the Univision interview, refer to Congressman Duncan Hunter and his comments in the Univision TV debate.
Talking about immigration at this late point is a waste. Because of McCain’s past positions they’ll have to do too much trimming to make a strong case that could be a game changer. Meanwhile, bringing it up at all is diluting the Marxism message. They need to stay on target; there’s not enough time to wander around with the message.
“The ‘end of the line’ is behind THEM, on foreign soil.”
Works for me. Retired Army, here. We’re on the same side, Dude.
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Well that was incoherent.
Agreed. Additionally, it is critical to guarantee fluency in English and an end to dependence on government programs.
In other words, you have no valid answer. NONE!
All internal and external polling shows Obama already has a significant lock on the Hispanic vote.
However, droves of non Hispanic voters, pissed off across the board on illegal immigration, could be tilted strongly in the direction of the GOP candidates and the 2008 GOP Platform.
It would infact win the election for John McCain, regardless of how the MSM would paint it.
The MSM painted efforts to stop amnesty as racist, 24/7, but the people were NOT intimidated and flooded Capitol Hill with phones and and faxes and killed it anyway. It was a massive, grassroots tidal wave tsuanmi of revolt.
If the MSM says at the last moment Illegal Immigration being brought up is "racist" their words will fall deaf ears just as they did last year with about 80% of the people.
This election is John McCain's to win or lose over wedge issue illegal immigration/support of immigrants with our tax dollars in a recession-heading America.
...oh wait... only a closet illegal loving, socialist supporting liberal in sheep's clothing would suggest that.
Illegal Immigration, the MASSIVE tax base already being alloted them which soaks the providers of society, "share the wealth" to include illegals with benefits they do not deserve, and MARXISM ALL GO HAND IN HAND.
You are cutting off legitimate debate on this issue.
Are you describing yourself...or me, because I never said that and I am not bubbling in my ballot for Obama.
I can’t answer gibberish. Speak english and I’ll try.
We know the problems, we know the stats, there have been thousand of threads repeating them.
The real question is, what next. Whining doesn't accomplish anything. Not facing the reality that Obama or McCain will be the next president doesn't accomplish anything.
Only you know if I was describing you. I know who I already voted for and it sure as heck wasn’t the Marxist or any of the cracked third party options.
I don’t think this will work. McCain’s past positions make for too much equivocation to draw the stark differentiation needed at this late stage. I agree that a strong anti illegal immigration position would be a winner but McCain has hobbled himself too much to make a salable case.
MODERATOR: Congressman Hunter, why not support the legalization? HUNTER: Did you ask the same question? MODERATOR: OK, why you're not support that idea? HUNTER: Listen, when I was -- when I came back from Vietnam, I was a practicing lawyer in the barrio. I was the only lawyer there, and I never turned away a family that came in and needed help. But I told them a couple of things. One thing is, you have to be here legally, because the first thing you've got to learn in this country is the rule of law. And the second thing is, you have to make sure that your kids learn English, because that is the American opportunity. Now, in 1983, we gave an amnesty, and when we gave that amnesty, 3 million people came in who were allowed to stay in who were here illegally. We said at that point, no more, and we're not going to let anybody else come in. HUNTER: After that, 12 million more people came in. If we give an amnesty to this next batch of 12 million people, you will have a third wave of people coming in expecting to catch the third amnesty. You know, this lady behind me represents a lot of things. One is welcoming immigrants to America. The other is the rule of law. We have to establish the rule of law, and people who are here illegally have to go home. (APPLAUSE)
Now THIS is how to answer Univision, Freepers.
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