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Are Democrats whistling past the Bradley effect graveyard?
The Collins Report ^ | Oct. 27, 2008 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 10/27/2008 4:50:16 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

In 1982 Tom Bradley, a competent Black man, was on his way to becoming California’s first Black Governor then he lost. He was a mainstream Democrat that didn’t scare anyone with his plans, but his race beat him.

Today Barack Obama a Black man is running for president. He has small but definite leads in most polls, but that might be where he and Bradley are different.

Looking back, Bradley’s race appears to have defeated him. By contrast Obama’s plans scare lots of people.

The media likes to cite a 3% Bradley factor they’ve picked out of the air.

They rely on people not realizing that the race will be a zero sum game. “What comes to me must come from you” explains the situation. Remember the 3% folds over on itself, so if A and B are tied at 50 but 3% of A’s voters are lying and really going to vote for B, the real effect creates a 53/47 advantage for B.

Two recent AOL items suggest a Bradley presence bigger than anyone is admitting. The first giddily reported that “70% said race was not a factor” in this election. How a 30% yes response is proof of no Bradley factor in this race is a mystery.

The second item was a poll of more than 200,000 respondents in which 17% admitted “race will be very important” in this election.

Bradley was viewed as “just another Democrat.” Obama is viewed by many as a socialist.

Even before they knew of Obama’s socialist ideology, 20% of Democrats reported they wouldn’t vote for him.

Bradley was a Black Democrat and lost. Many see Obama as a Black socialist with very alarming plans.

It might not be his race that beats him; his plans and his race might beat Barack Obama.

(Excerpt) Read more at Collinsreport.net ...


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If the Democrats/media is saying there is a 3% Bradley effect coming they are either talking about a 3% Bradley with a doubling to 6% or a 1 1/2 % Bradley with a doubling to 3%. To support this you have to believe just 3 people out of 200 will vote in a Bradley mode. There is absolutely no evidence to support this notion.
1 posted on 10/27/2008 4:50:16 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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Not only that but I was just watching Morning Joe and Brokaw is on saying that Bush needs to put Obamas people in charge on Nov. 5th. GOOD GOD>>they are insane.


3 posted on 10/27/2008 4:58:54 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: jmaroneps37

To support this you have to believe just 3 people out of 200 will vote in a Bradley mode. There is absolutely no evidence to support this notion.


More like 3 people out of 200 WON’T vote in a Bradley mode.

Obama’s chickens have come home to roost.


4 posted on 10/27/2008 4:59:24 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: screaminsunshine

Did Brokaw say it with a straight face? What was his rationale for his idiotic suggestion?


5 posted on 10/27/2008 5:01:39 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: jmaroneps37

Americans electing Obama, is like the Palestinians electing Hamas.


6 posted on 10/27/2008 5:03:06 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: jmaroneps37
At this time in the 2004 election there were about 1%-3% undecided. With this election there is still 10%-15% undecided. Obama has not been able to seal the deal after 20 months. In my opinion, the majority of undecideds are going to vote for McCain/Palin. Given the recent IBD/TIPP poll of only +3 for Obama, the over sampling of Democrats, and ‘Democrats for McCain’, and PUMAs, and the undecideds going McCain's way, I fully expect to see McCain/Palin in the White House.

Polls from 2004:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry.html

7 posted on 10/27/2008 5:03:16 AM PDT by avacado (Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate)
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To: StarFan

He said we are in an emergency and can not wait til January to get the “transition” done.


8 posted on 10/27/2008 5:03:28 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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"Not only that but I was just watching Morning Joe and Brokaw is on saying that Bush needs to put Obamas people in charge on Nov. 5th. GOOD GOD>>they are insane."

Is Brokaw really so dense that he does not know that the Democrats just crashed the entire US ecomomy with their sub-prime loan scams?

9 posted on 10/27/2008 5:05:12 AM PDT by avacado (Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate)
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To: jmaroneps37

I’ve thought this delicate issue would pop up once again, but I think this should be an offline topic which may invite flame throwers and unrest online.


10 posted on 10/27/2008 5:06:07 AM PDT by Wiz
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To: Senator Goldwater

“...Brokaw is on saying that Bush needs to put Obamas people in charge on Nov. 5...”

I have about 4 dictionaries at my house. I am going to go through each one and black out the word ‘unbelieveable’.

The MSM is, at this point, beyond the pale of credibility!


11 posted on 10/27/2008 5:07:30 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: avacado
The vast majority of “Undecideds” either have already voted or fully intend to vote for McCain/Palin.
12 posted on 10/27/2008 5:07:45 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: sf4dubya
Amen to that brother. I was still living in Queens in those years.

During the Crown Heights riots I was listening to police radio on a scanner and the cops were livid because they were ordered to “stand down’ and let the rioters alone.

The police dispatcher had to plead repeatedly to “keep the channel clear” and warn officers about vulgar language going out on the radio.

There was out and out contempt expressed repeatedly by police at Dinkins and Police Commissioner Lee Brown.

One quote that I remember verbatim was “when is that a__hole Dinkins gonna take off the handcuffs and let us do our f___ing jobs?”

13 posted on 10/27/2008 5:11:29 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: Cedric

Agreed!


14 posted on 10/27/2008 5:11:39 AM PDT by avacado (Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate)
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To: StarFan

Probably to quell the riots.


15 posted on 10/27/2008 5:13:04 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Obama is not qualified for the FBI, but he is qualified for the Presidency????)
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To: avacado
"Is Brokaw really so dense that he does not know
that the Democrats just crashed the entire US ecomomy
with their sub-prime loan scams? "

Marxist-socialist-proterrorist NBC knows.
David Gregory's wife is the Executive Vice President-General Counsel of Fannie Mae.
Did they really forget to duly inform the NBC listeners of that? (but of course)


16 posted on 10/27/2008 5:14:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: screaminsunshine

I put this up just yesterday as SATIRE..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2115548/posts


17 posted on 10/27/2008 5:17:20 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info. MAVERICK/BARRACUDA '08)
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To: jmaroneps37

“The Bradley Effect” is the Media’s explanation for the inaccuracy of junk science adjustment factors in polling when it fails to predict a white victory. When they guesstimated wrong in the Bradley election, they blamed their blunder on covert racism. Since covert racism has a ready-made audience, the boobs fell for it.


18 posted on 10/27/2008 5:17:43 AM PDT by Bertram3 ("Never give up. Never Give up. Never, never, never, never." Churchill)
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To: Diogenesis
"David Gregory's wife is the Executive Vice President-General Counsel of Fannie Mae. "

Wow!

19 posted on 10/27/2008 5:19:45 AM PDT by avacado (Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate)
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To: jmaroneps37

I think it’s part of the Democrat plan to set up racism as the reason if Obama does lose. If you look at the recent runs for major office by black candidates you’ll see the Bradley Effect has been pretty much a non-issue. In the 2006 Senate race, Ford’s final results closely mirrored the polls.


20 posted on 10/27/2008 5:21:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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