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1 posted on 10/24/2008 10:49:27 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Don't feel bad about those you let go. Chances are they voted for Barack Obama and they're just getting what they so richly deserve anyway.

Best line I've seen today-- workers should think of it as an 'investment' in education.

2 posted on 10/24/2008 10:52:32 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: All

Anybody know how I can Obama-proof my salary?


3 posted on 10/24/2008 10:53:38 AM PDT by Jim Hill
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To: Turret Gunner A20
My wife & I have been discussing what to do with her small business should BO win, and one likely option is reducing the number of payroll employees. Other options are less - legal.

The other thing I'm considering is getting a public sector job.

If you can't lick 'em, join 'em.

4 posted on 10/24/2008 10:53:54 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Business owners are already making plans. If Obama wins a lot of businesses are cutting back any spending, layong off workers and hoping to hang on until 2010.

I know two people in the last few days who have said their company is planning on downsizing if Obama wins. One company may just shut down. They employ about 30 to 50 people.

Any business hoping to ride it out to 2010 faces - The problem that in 2010 CAIR/ACORN/SEIU will run our elections if Obama wins.

I had expansion plans that are on hold until the election. If McCain wins - I am going full out. If Obama wins, I will probably cut back on everything.


5 posted on 10/24/2008 10:55:49 AM PDT by Frantzie
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Or I can just pack up and go to China.


7 posted on 10/24/2008 10:58:14 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Turret Gunner A20
There is no real way to insulate a small business from an empowered socialist agenda. You can make less money (might as well work for someone else), go out of business and let the local political insiders pocket the cash, or lie. I have a feeling that many will choose the third option and invite repercussions from the regime.
8 posted on 10/24/2008 10:58:22 AM PDT by allmost
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Will we all be Lech Welesa or John Galt, or a combo thereof...
10 posted on 10/24/2008 11:01:54 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Interesting take on the situation. And I do like your closing statement.


11 posted on 10/24/2008 11:05:42 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

After my dad (who passed on in 1989) sold his business and retired whenever he needed some extra money he would go from business to business in the small town where he lived telling the owners he would work for $X paid under the table. He was always able to find employment usually after only 2-3 days of searching. I suspect that in the coming regime there will be a lot more of this going on.


13 posted on 10/24/2008 11:08:19 AM PDT by scory
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After my dad (who passed on in 1989) sold his business and retired whenever he needed some extra money he would go from business to business in the small town where he lived telling the owners he would work for $X paid under the table. He was always able to find employment usually after only 2-3 days of searching. I suspect that in the coming regime there will be a lot more of this going on.


14 posted on 10/24/2008 11:08:27 AM PDT by scory
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I began working as a consultant in 1994.

This was just as the Rs were taking over the Congress after Peter Jennings’ “Temper Tantrum”.

That’s significant, because a huge portion of the internet (such as it was at the time) that dealt with consultants talked about the “20 Questions”. These were 20 questions the IRS possibly ask you to establish if you were a consultant or actually an employee. Won’t go into all the details, but there were some landmark cases involving Microsoft and other large companies.

Well, the whole issue of those 20 questions gradually went away. I worked a position for 11 years as a consultant, in total violation of the previous policy. Once the reps. took over, I believe the IRS relaxed their rules due to pressure from the pro-business republicans.

You can likely bet there will be a reversal of this policy is 0 wins and the congress is controlled by the dims.

I saw all this because of this article’s advice to hire temporary employees.


15 posted on 10/24/2008 11:09:10 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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As a long time consultant this article is truth. It is amazing how much easier it is to hire/fire contractors than workers, both from a corporate HR and federal/state employee law viewpoint.


21 posted on 10/24/2008 11:15:33 AM PDT by CodeToad
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Just for the next week or so. When McCain wins we can go back to normal.


23 posted on 10/24/2008 11:17:27 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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ping


26 posted on 10/24/2008 11:36:34 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Are contract employees really cheaper than regular employees? I would think the overhead costs in dealing with a temp firm would tend to eat up a lot of the savings.


27 posted on 10/24/2008 11:50:18 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Mainstream media is not mainstream. Call it what it is: Hate Media.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Contract Labor
Outsourcing
Virtual Assistants
Converting Earned Income into Passive Income

OR

Go to our hidden base in the Colorado mountains and wait for it to collapse without us.


30 posted on 10/24/2008 12:11:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Stalin was a community organizer...)
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bttt


33 posted on 10/24/2008 12:29:03 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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Perhaps the best way to protect ones' business from Obama is to close it. Just walk away - sell the hard assets and lock the doors. A nationwide strike of the true productive, innovative people would be an appropriate answer to a "leader" who favors the scheme that was present in the USSR.

Scorched earth policy. He can have 100% of nothing, which exactly matches what he really is - 100% of nothing.

36 posted on 10/24/2008 12:55:37 PM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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These people don't work for you. They work for the staffing agency. You don't pay them. You pay the staffing agency. You don't have to provide them with benefits like health insurance. That's up to the staffing agency. They can't unionize your workplace. You simply change staffing agencies. When a worker becomes a problem you don't have to jump through all sorts of legal hoops to fire them. Just tell the staffing agency to send someone else. The problem worker works for the staffing agency, not you. When your taxes go up you can simply tell the staffing agency that increased costs are going to lead to cuts, either in the number of their people working for you, or in the amount they're charging you for these people.

Sounds like a good idea, but it would only work in a capitalism based economy.

Once Obama and the democrats get the power, they will change many of the laws and the staffing agency will become the hiring arm or department of the company. Once they're declared as part of the company, the standard employee rules will become effective for the "agency contractors" and they will have to be treated as all employees with the same benefits and salaries as regular employees.

Under socialism, and under the socialists, the rules change, and the rules under socialism favor the "proletariat".
39 posted on 10/24/2008 1:24:56 PM PDT by adorno
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In the industry I work in, if obama gets elected we are toast. My only choice will be to reduce my payroll to a skeleton crew. Their won’t be much work left in the industry I work in. We will be reduced to to being the caretakers of a dying industry.


42 posted on 10/24/2008 6:28:28 PM PDT by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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