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As oil prices plummet, Venezuelans likely to suffer
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | 10/23/08 | Tyler Bridges

Posted on 10/23/2008 5:41:04 PM PDT by pasr

CARACAS, Venezuela — They line up early, before sunrise, beside a massive metal fence to wait for a government grocery store named for a 1960s Venezuelan revolutionary to open.

"The government pays for the subsidies, and that's why we elected the president, and that's why we love him," said Medarda Romero , 66, setting down a black garbage bag full of food. "He cares about the poor. Previous presidents didn't."

Venezuela's government gets 50 percent of its income from oil revenues, however, and now falling oil prices threaten to force Chavez to scale back the food subsidies and other government programs he's used to lift millions of Venezuelans out of poverty.

Not only could this make life harder for the poor but it also could threaten Chavez's political power, because his popularity depends at least in part on his free-spending anti-poverty programs.

"Shortages of food won't help Chavez," said Pedro Atencio , a 40-year-old factory worker, as he waited in line outside the "mercal," as the grocery store is known in Venezuela . "People would become unhappy. That wouldn't be good for him."

International oil prices peaked at $147 a barrel in July but have dropped to below $70 amid the worldwide financial crisis. Venezuelan oil generally sells for about $10 per barrel less than the international price.

Ramon Espinasa , formerly the chief economist for the Venezuelan state oil company, now consults for the Inter-American Dialogue, a public-policy organization in Washington . He estimates that the government's profits from oil exports will drop to $41 billion this year from $52 billion last year.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: oilprices; plummet
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McCain/Palin need to bring this up as an issue ... It shows McCain/Palin want to drill and Obama/Biden are against off shore drilling ... If we want a tax cut how about permanent low oil prices .. How about debt reduction and not having to have blackmail from the Middle East........... Also,socialism
1 posted on 10/23/2008 5:41:06 PM PDT by pasr
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To: pasr
Boo freaking hoo. Like I give a rat's ass what Chavez suffers.
2 posted on 10/23/2008 5:42:07 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Your VERY LIBERTY is in jeopardy!!! We have to win this election or see liberty perish.)
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To: pasr

The people are already suffering under Hugo Chavez. Will it really be noticeably worse than it already is?


3 posted on 10/23/2008 5:44:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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He cares about the poor

Oh really? It sounds more like he is destroying Venezuela... the only end I'm seeing Chavez being removed from power by violent means a few years from now...

4 posted on 10/23/2008 5:45:50 PM PDT by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: RetiredArmy

I don’t care about Chavez suffering either, but the people who he rules have no choice who their leader is. They’re also the only people down there suffering. Hugo’s living the high life.


5 posted on 10/23/2008 5:48:29 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: RetiredArmy

I’m kind of happy to hear it. The Venezuelans have it in their power to get rid of Chavez. If they choose not to do so then they must enjoy suffering.


6 posted on 10/23/2008 5:49:07 PM PDT by I_hate_politicians
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Wait, WAIT WAIT!!!! I think I feel a tear coming on!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHH

Nevermind, it was just GAS!!!! Pardon the pun. Screw Chavez.

7 posted on 10/23/2008 5:49:31 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: oldvike

Sure they have a choice just like we do. If a dictator took over here, which choice do we take? Submit or fight. I chose too fight. I will not bow down to any man. Too me, Liberty is first. I am a free man. No government will make me a prisoner. Either I continue to live free or die. I will never be a prisoner of a thug dictator.


8 posted on 10/23/2008 5:50:34 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Your VERY LIBERTY is in jeopardy!!! We have to win this election or see liberty perish.)
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Good .


9 posted on 10/23/2008 5:50:47 PM PDT by fantom
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To: I_hate_politicians

Yup. Just like that Dimocrat voter with the garbage bag full of food he gave her. He bought her vote with free stuff, just like the Dimocrats here.


10 posted on 10/23/2008 5:52:32 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Your VERY LIBERTY is in jeopardy!!! We have to win this election or see liberty perish.)
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It actually will be worse. In addition to the oppression, now they are seriously looking at a lack of basic necessities.

It could, however, also finally trigger the population and/or military to take action.


11 posted on 10/23/2008 5:55:06 PM PDT by SlapHappyPappy
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Chavez will do what commie-fascist dictators do when the economy sours...he will go to war, most likely with Colombia.


12 posted on 10/23/2008 5:55:35 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: pasr

Let em eat oil....


13 posted on 10/23/2008 5:56:58 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: RetiredArmy

Unfortunately I don’t think it’s gonna be long before you have to back those words up. BTW, I’ll be right there with you.


14 posted on 10/23/2008 5:58:01 PM PDT by oldvike
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For the last month, I have bought ammo for my pistols. Last week I bought a new AR15 rifle. I have several boxes of ammo for it and clips. I have other guns as well. Some people may think it is a big mouth boast, but friend, I will not be a prisoner of a dictator. I will not give up my guns. They WILL have to come and shoot me to get them. I did not serve this republic 20 years, bleed on a battlefield, see friends killed in combat, to be RULED in my own country. I don't give a tinkers damn what Marxist Dimocrats and that ass ugly fool Obama says. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL OBAMA EVER BE MY PRESIDENT!!! I don't recognize communists as my leader.
15 posted on 10/23/2008 6:00:51 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The TIME for revolution to take back this Republic nears!)
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To: pasr

unfortunately, most Americans don’t even know where venezuela is on a map.


16 posted on 10/23/2008 6:04:49 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama: If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.)
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You mean, under socialism,that there are lines to get food and goods that are regulated by the government?
Shades of the USSR!


17 posted on 10/23/2008 6:05:06 PM PDT by gigster
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and what will a President Obama do when his economy sours and can’t afford all his big spending?


18 posted on 10/23/2008 6:06:45 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama: If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I think lots of people have forgotten that Communists are/were/will be the enemy. If US Citizens from the 50’s saw this election they would shoot us all..


19 posted on 10/23/2008 6:06:58 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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Poverty has declined from 50 percent of Venezuela's population when Chavez took office in 1999 to 33 percent last year, according to government statistics.

This is silly. Poverty is measured in terms of household income. He hasn't reduced poverty, he has reduced hunger. Moreover, he is destroying the economic infrastructure in the process. Small businesses cannot compete with government subsidized food. They will lose half their clientele and will go out of business. Thanks, Hugo!

20 posted on 10/23/2008 6:17:20 PM PDT by Juan Medén
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